Episode 67
Is Muscle Testing Biblical?
This episode delves into the intricate subject of muscle testing, also known as applied kinesiology, and its implications within the framework of holistic health. I express my initial apprehensions regarding this practice, which has stirred considerable debate over its validity both biblically and scientifically. Through thorough research, I uncover that applied kinesiology is rooted in principles that are often inconsistent with scriptural teachings, leading to a profound realization about its potential to misguide practitioners and patients alike. Furthermore, I discuss the significant scientific evidence that casts doubt on the effectiveness of muscle testing, revealing its reliance on subjective interpretations rather than objective data. Ultimately, I invite our listeners to engage in critical reflection regarding the practices they endorse, emphasizing the importance of aligning one's health decisions with biblical truth and discernment.
Takeaways:
- The episode emphasizes the importance of biblical discernment in holistic health practices, particularly in applied kinesiology.
- Savannah discusses her personal experiences and research findings about muscle testing, revealing inaccuracies and biblical concerns.
- A significant point raised is that muscle testing lacks scientific validation, with numerous studies showing no conclusive results.
- The podcast underscores the necessity for Christians to evaluate health practices through scripture and scientific evidence, avoiding unbiblical influences.
- Listeners are encouraged to challenge their beliefs and seek truth in health practices, ensuring alignment with biblical principles.
- The episode concludes with a call for repentance from practices that do not align with God's teachings, advocating for a faith-based approach to health.
Transcript
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Speaker A:And welcome back to Casting Seeds.
Speaker A:I'm Savannah, your holistic health practitioner and host, and you're listening to the only holistic health podcast that uses God's singular truth to give you individualized discernment.
Speaker A:If you didn't already see the title of this week's episode, I'm kind of nervous because we're going to be talking about muscle testing today.
Speaker A:Or actually the scientific name name for it is applied kinesiology and this has been a hot topic for quite some time.
Speaker A:I personally have had it done to me in many different ways and versions.
Speaker A:Some that I did think was more biblical and very much not biblical.
Speaker A:And it's interesting because I think a lot of people assume.
Speaker A:Well, actually, I should say I kind of assumed coming into this before I did a bunch of research that applied kinesiology was similar to almost like yoga.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:I felt like it was something where.
Speaker A:I mean, yes, the base of yoga is an occult type of practice.
Speaker A:Technically, if you are going to become a yogi, you study one position, you worship that position and it stands for a Hindu God.
Speaker A:But my thing with it was most Christians take, you know, stretches and any type of position, even standing, I think that's called tree pose.
Speaker A:And even laying down on your flat on your back, it's called corpse pose.
Speaker A:So there are yogis that would literally worship that deity and that God through that position through a lifetime, and they hold it for as long as they can each day.
Speaker A:Uh, Christians don't do that.
Speaker A:When we are laying down flat on our back, we are not worshiping unless you are in your heart, you're worshiping that false idol.
Speaker A:Uh, yeah.
Speaker A:So for me, that's kind of how I thought of applied kinesiology or muscle testing.
Speaker A:Because there are definite ways like people do it with.
Speaker A:What are those things?
Speaker A:A Pendulums.
Speaker A:People use pendulums, which is not okay.
Speaker A:People definitely can take things and make it out of context and use it in a non biblical context.
Speaker A:Kind of like also sex.
Speaker A:I use that as an example all the time.
Speaker A:Sex within marriage is beautiful and amazing.
Speaker A:Sex outside of marriage, outside of God's plan, outside of God's desire and will is not good.
Speaker A:So that's kind of how I always applied, applied to applied kinesiology or muscle testing that people can take it and use it.
Speaker A:Not biblically or biblically.
Speaker A:But it was interesting because I came in with that concept of being very neutral and I'm kind of surprised at the results of this and I'd love to know what you guys think.
Speaker A:If you really Think that this was planting seeds or casting pearls with the evidence that I found biblically and also scientifically.
Speaker A:Because here's the thing, when I have gone into alternative methods for medicine, every single one that I personally approve of is proved biblically first for it to be a biblical solid wisdom.
Speaker A:Nothing is iffy or has a gray area.
Speaker A:I should say it's very clear.
Speaker A:It's like black or white, what's good about it?
Speaker A:Or if it can be used unbiblically or taken out of context, which I think is different than a gray area.
Speaker A:I do think it's not great when Christians play, especially with in holistic health within a gray area because non Christians can see that and be like, oh, you're a freaking hypocrite.
Speaker A:You know, I know they can do that anyway, which is scripture in general.
Speaker A:But it's easy when you can go back to scripture and be like, hey, actually I'm not a hypocrite.
Speaker A:This is what God's scripture says.
Speaker A:And it's through and through Old Testament and New Testament, where if it's a gray area, it can't necessarily be backed up by scripture.
Speaker A:And that's a problem for me.
Speaker A:The other thing is, so if, if it's biblical, it's going to be proven by science.
Speaker A:And that's the other thing with.
Speaker A:Let's use.
Speaker A:Cause we're going to be talking about frequencies as well during this episode because I found out that people confuse can apply to kinesiology and frequencies often.
Speaker A:And I think that's where all of this actually comes into play, which I'm really excited to get into today.
Speaker A:But anyway, science backs up what God's creation was intended for, right?
Speaker A:Science backs it up again and again and again because science proves that God exists.
Speaker A:And if science shows that something is not accurate, but Christians are claiming that it is.
Speaker A: e bees were discovered in the: Speaker A: it was discovered that in the: Speaker A:I think there's three different types of bees within jungles that do burrow into animals like tigers and lions and any type of corpse animal and they make like a blood honey.
Speaker A:So it's not that type of disproving.
Speaker A:We're like, well, we're just waiting for it to be proven when science has shown over and over and over again that there's no conclusion, that's a problem for me.
Speaker A:So before we get into muscle testing and everything that it's about, I just want to say that's where I'm coming from.
Speaker A:That's where I from looking into this.
Speaker A:And that's how I study everything that we talk about here.
Speaker A:On Casting Seeds.
Speaker A:I make sure that it's backed up biblically and if it's not, we discuss that, or if it is, we discuss that.
Speaker A:And if it's backed up scientifically, we discuss why or why not it isn't.
Speaker A:And for muscle testing in general, I was actually shocked to discover that not only is it very much frowned upon biblically and the points that were brought up I had never even really thought of before, which I love, I love being challenged in my faith.
Speaker A:But also scientifically, it has been proven through every single non biased research like third party research study and even college study and hospital study that it is completely like up and down with inaccuracy.
Speaker A:Like there is no conclusiveness in it whatsoever.
Speaker A:So I don't want people to hear this and be like, and then turn it off.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I want you guys, if you love muscle testing, I want you to listen to this episode because you should like be okay with being challenged in your faith one, but also be, be okay with, be challenged with what you think of scientifically and be challenged about your body and your mind.
Speaker A:Like for instance, I had a lot of vegan friends who became not vegan because they actually challenged their body and saw what it was like to actually try putting meat in their body and then vice versa.
Speaker A:Like I actually, I was very pro meat and I do a lot better with more plant based diet and of course some meat as well.
Speaker A:But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker A:You should, if you ever feel like this way is the only way, you know, take a step back and be okay with being challenged in it and see if that's true.
Speaker A:Even with Christ, if you're not sure, if you can't answer that question, why is Christ the only way?
Speaker A:It's time for you to be challenged in that.
Speaker A:So with that perspective in mind, I want you guys to know that I'm coming from a place that was very inquisitive and excited, not judgmental.
Speaker A:I did come from a place where it never really fully worked for me when it came to muscle testing.
Speaker A:And I have met people where they're like, it's the only thing that diagnosed me Properly.
Speaker A:And then when I got my blood work done, it was correct, which is great.
Speaker A:Um, actually, I've only met two people out of all of the hundreds of people that I've talked to about muscle testing.
Speaker A:Two people said that.
Speaker A:But I have great crush Christian friends who do it and who, like, they do apply to kinesiology.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:Yeah, I.
Speaker A:I'm just really interested to see what my friends think of this and what you guys who've been asking me to do this episode think of this.
Speaker A:Okay, let's get into this because I was shocked.
Speaker A:Okay, so let's talk about what applied kinesiology is.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Applied kinesiology, or muscle testing, is a method of.
Speaker A: That was developed in: Speaker A:So the purpose is for a diagnosis.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And this is where I was like, okay, I didn't.
Speaker A:I didn't know that.
Speaker A:I thought it was just kind of like overall, like, general deficiencies.
Speaker A:But no, the purpose is diagnosing medical conditions, which is really important to remember for the future.
Speaker A:Also detecting energy, possible energy imbalances, nutritional deficiencies and allergies, and determining prescribed therapies.
Speaker A:So a lot of diagnosing.
Speaker A:Diagnosing.
Speaker A:Diagnosing, diagnosing.
Speaker A:Applied kinesiology is a form of alternative or naturopathic medicine.
Speaker A:According to the handbook Applied Kinesiology, Muscle Response in Diagnostic Therapy and Preventative Medicine, the practitioner of applied kinesiology claims to be able to evaluate five body the nervous system, the lymphatic system, the vascular system, the cerebral spinal system, and the meridian.
Speaker A:If you don't know what a meridian is, it's like the chi or flow that there's no.
Speaker A:It's like the life source of a human being.
Speaker A:So basically like a spiritual kind of.
Speaker A:It's hard to explain because unless you've taken Eastern medicine, it's basically like the life flow within you.
Speaker A:When I was a Christian in holistic health and I had to take a few eastern medications medicine classes, I actually saw that more as a nervous system blockage, like the actual flow of energy in the body.
Speaker A:But they do make it very clear that the meridian line is very different from the nervous system line.
Speaker A:So for me, I just didn't agree with it, like, even to a scientific level.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:So if you do applied kinesiology, you are in support of also talking about life force and chi.
Speaker A:And that is also important in what's coming up.
Speaker A:The primary diagnostic procedure in applied kinesiology is muscle testing.
Speaker A:So muscle testing is a procedure within applied kinesiology.
Speaker A:In a typical session, a patient is asked to hold his or her arm out parallel to the floor for the test.
Speaker A:The practitioner will then push or pull the arm down while checking the degree of muscle resistance by the patient.
Speaker A:While the patient holds certain foods, vitamins, herbs, supplements, you know, etcetera, in his or her hand.
Speaker A:So supposedly, if the patient is holding or thinking about something that is bad or negative, there will be a weakness in his or her arm and the resistance will be less.
Speaker A:The arm will be easily pushed down or will give away suddenly, okay.
Speaker A:Conversely, if the patient is holding or thinking about something good or positive, the resistance will be greater because the patient is stronger while holding them.
Speaker A:So the patient feels better, they connect better with that plant or that source of vitamins or nutrients.
Speaker A:So George J.
Speaker A: vented applied kinesiology in: Speaker A:He combined the elements of psychiatric philosophy, Chinese Taoism or Taoism, and ancient Eastern practices with the DD Palmer's chiropractic therapy.
Speaker A:So just to.
Speaker A:This is where, like, it was all created.
Speaker A:It's a mixture of psychic philosophy, Chinese Taoism or Taoism, depending on how you pronounce it.
Speaker A:Chinese, Eastern practices, and then chiropractic theory.
Speaker A:Sorry, Palmer's chiropractic theory, not whatever.
Speaker A:So he combined the concept of innate intelligence, it's like, quote, unquote, innate intelligence, with the Eastern religious concept of energy or chi, and the concept that muscles can indicate the connection of body organs via the cheese meridians.
Speaker A:So he's reported to have developed a series of elaborate charts showing the relationship between certain organs and zones of the body, as well as specific nutrients and herbs.
Speaker A:That's kind of where that all came from.
Speaker A:And according to Good Heart, the information on the charts was at least partly derived through psychic powers and abilities.
Speaker A:So, yes, I can say as a holistic health practitioner that, you know, that there are certain herbs and foods that are associated with different parts of the body.
Speaker A:And that has been proven by science.
Speaker A:It has been backed up in multiple studies.
Speaker A:But also it's very easy for a practitioner, someone who, like, can literally lay hands on the body, to feel as to whether or not something is working well with your body or not working well, whether it's bruising, sensitivity after eating different breath, or bo There are just a lot of physiological signs.
Speaker A:So I do feel like when it comes through psychic powers, it.
Speaker A:There's a lot of really easy ways to cheat this.
Speaker A:So I would just say to be wary of somebody who especially is not a Christian doing this with you.
Speaker A:Um, I would just not recommend it personally.
Speaker A:It's kind of like instead of going to prayer, going to a prayer group or fellowship with somebody when you need help, it's okay with also just going to a psychic every once in a while.
Speaker A:So then how do we determine that if a Christian's using it, that it could be good?
Speaker A:Well, let's just see if that would even be appropriate.
Speaker A:Um, but basically, the proponents of applied kinesiology claim to be able to diagnose a disease.
Speaker A:They can also discover areas of weakness.
Speaker A:They can pinpoint chemical imbalances.
Speaker A:They can detect allergies.
Speaker A:They can discern nutrient values of foods.
Speaker A:They can find toxic influences and reactions, all using good hearts methods.
Speaker A:That's a.
Speaker A:You're basically amazing if you can.
Speaker A:If you can genuinely do this.
Speaker A:You don't need any type of modern medicine ever.
Speaker A:Practitioners of applied kinesiology have also branched out into other areas.
Speaker A:Okay, here we go.
Speaker A:They claim to be able to detect whether someone is telling the truth.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They can also detect personality and mental disorders or emotional problems, and whether someone or something is inherently good or evil, demonic or angelic.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Information related to past lives can supposedly be discovered using these methods as well.
Speaker A:Some have even claimed that the ability to communicate with plants or other forces of nature.
Speaker A:Behavioral kinesiology is an extension of applied kinesiology, which uses muscle testing for determining basically everything in one's life, such as music selections, paint colors, dietary choices, relationship decisions, and so on.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I'm just.
Speaker A:I need to stop right there.
Speaker A:Nothing but the Lord's will should decide.
Speaker A:I don't even care if it is a paint color, a dietary choice.
Speaker A:All of those things need to go back to the Lord.
Speaker A:Not you, not your muscles, not your flesh, but the Lord.
Speaker A:So right there, that's a no.
Speaker A:And for the stuff before that as well, for diagnose, discover areas of weakness, pinpoint chemical imbalances, all those things.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I'm just gonna.
Speaker A:Before I get into the next part, I did go to someone who was recommended to me for figuring out imbalances in my body.
Speaker A:It was actually right after my fourth miscarriage.
Speaker A:And she's amazing.
Speaker A:I love her immensely.
Speaker A:I still do to this day.
Speaker A:And her whole practice was based on applied kinesiology.
Speaker A:It was the first time I ever had a Christian work with me in it.
Speaker A:So I was very open to it.
Speaker A:My husband tried it as well.
Speaker A:We definitely.
Speaker A:I mean, I came in telling her that I felt like it was in my gut was the problem.
Speaker A:And even though we talked about imbalances and stuff, and she did help me figure out that my stress was really, really bad.
Speaker A:Those were all things, though, that I already knew.
Speaker A:I just didn't know how to fix those imbalances.
Speaker A:I didn't know what I fully needed to take or where to even start.
Speaker A:So she did help me figure out, like, what works best.
Speaker A:But it was.
Speaker A:It was through trial and error.
Speaker A:I just felt like because she's also a holistic nutritionist, I felt like she worked more through the holistic nutrition side of, like, basically trial and error, which is normal and holistic health.
Speaker A:More so than when she did the muscle testing on me.
Speaker A:Like, she did do that every single time.
Speaker A:And I laid down and she put, you know, the glass little vials on me or whatever.
Speaker A:Um, but every time, I mean, she.
Speaker A:She didn't help me figure out what it was.
Speaker A:It took me.
Speaker A:I mean, that was September when I started going to her.
Speaker A:We started with a parasite, and that didn't do anything.
Speaker A:And then we did a bacterial cleanse, and that didn't do anything.
Speaker A:In fact, I actually felt worse.
Speaker A:And so then I just started doing things on my own.
Speaker A:And then July of that upcoming year is when I discovered I had Candida.
Speaker A:But that was 100% through the Lord.
Speaker A:So I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm not saying that muscle testing at that time, in my mind was inherently bad or inherently good.
Speaker A:I just knew that it didn't really work for me.
Speaker A:Even when I used it in the past to fall forward or fall back or whatever.
Speaker A:Uh, yeah, it just didn't.
Speaker A:Nothing really resonated with me.
Speaker A:It just always felt like an educated guess.
Speaker A:And I love cold, hard evidence.
Speaker A:That's why I'm a Christian.
Speaker A:Because biblically, the Bible is backed up inside of itself and outside of itself with cold, hard facts and evidence and scientific evidence.
Speaker A:Consistently so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then, same thing with being in healthcare.
Speaker A:I love seeing evidence and different studies and seeing who pays for those studies and understanding why things work the way that they work.
Speaker A:So that's just a little personal anecdote added in to this.
Speaker A:Now I'm going to go back to this research.
Speaker A:Okay, so where was I?
Speaker A:Okay, so, yeah, that was the last thing we talked about.
Speaker A:So it helps with relationship decisions.
Speaker A:Apparently, A Touch for Health is a layperson's vision of applied kinesiology.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:This moves even more deeply into the psychic realm.
Speaker A:It's a claim that life energy can be regulated and manipulated by a mental power alone.
Speaker A:Okay, so this is where I could hear a Christian being like, well, you know, some people say it's called claim it to be A life power.
Speaker A:But we know that we can claim, like with our mind, that we can work through the Holy Spirit and tap into the Holy Spirit.
Speaker A:No, that's not how God works.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can have self control and not sin and not think sinful things, not do some sinful things and repent and be with the Holy Spirit through prayer.
Speaker A:But you don't get to manipulate that type of power.
Speaker A:God does whatever he wants through you and he makes the choices and he gives you whatever, you know, incentive power per se, that he wants to.
Speaker A:It's not you controlling him.
Speaker A:He controls you and all of creation.
Speaker A:That's how that works, 100%.
Speaker A:So the touch for Life incorporates the belief that we are one with the universe.
Speaker A:And that mental power.
Speaker A:Okay, yeah.
Speaker A:That mental power enables us to tap into the life force that surrounds and permeates us.
Speaker A:Not biblical.
Speaker A:We are not one with the universe at all.
Speaker A:That's not how Christians work.
Speaker A:Okay, so let's talk about credible scientific studies of applied kinesiology.
Speaker A:Okay, so these were conducted by major UN universities and written up and respected peer reviewed medical journals.
Speaker A:Okay, that, by the way, because they all failed epically.
Speaker A:After, I think like five or six studies, they just stopped studying it because they already knew it didn't work.
Speaker A:So this is possibly due to the fact that scientists or licensed medical doctors take its claims very seriously.
Speaker A:And after seeing them fail back to back, they were like, all right, well, it's inconclusive.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, it's conclusive that it's an inconclusive type of diagnosis.
Speaker A:So they walked away from it anyway.
Speaker A: and was published in June of: Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker A:Dietetic Association, Dietic diet, etic, I don't know.
Speaker A:The study specifically tested three experienced applied kinesiologists there who evaluated athletes for nutrients, so specifically thiamine, zinc, vitamin A and a zorbic acid.
Speaker A:The results.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:The results obtained by three practitioners were assessed for reliability as compared to each other's findings.
Speaker A:So the standard laboratory tests, they were kind of like the base standard, saying that where they were in the nutrient status and they were computerized testing for actual strength of muscle contraction and regulation.
Speaker A:So statistically speaking, the results were abysmal for applied kinesiology.
Speaker A:The testers did not agree with each other.
Speaker A:They failed to discern true nutrient differences and could not even truly judge the real differences in muscle strength or how they got there.
Speaker A:The abstract concludes that the re.
Speaker A:This is so this is a quote from the actual study.
Speaker A:The results, the result of the study indicated that the use of applied kinesiology to evaluate nutrient status is no more useful than random guessing.
Speaker A:Oh man.
Speaker A: d study published in March of: Speaker A:Oh my gosh, that's even worse.
Speaker A:Many studies have shown that applied kinesiology results are not reproducible, which is.
Speaker A:That's like the number one thing you need for science and for proof.
Speaker A:One large review of applied kinesiology studied published in Chiropractic and Osteopathy concluded that.
Speaker A:Here's the the quote from the chiropractic and osteopathy study.
Speaker A:The few studies evaluating the unique AK procedures, which is muscle testing procedures, either refute or cannot support any validity of muscle testing procedures as any diagnostic tests.
Speaker A:The evidence to date does not support or use of any type of manual muscle testing for diagnostics of any organic organic disease or pre or subclinical conditions.
Speaker A:In short, no study has ever shown any legitimate physical model showing how it works based on the known and accepted laws of physical anatomy.
Speaker A:No government or university or sponsored scientific study has been able to demonstrate that applied kinesiology is safe, effective or even accurate in any way, shape or form.
Speaker A:So according to a recent time in CNN poll, which those are very liberal publications, about 30% of Americans have resorted to some sort of unconventional therapy and half of them within the past year.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker A:So just within the past year, which that would have been.
Speaker A:When Was this published?
Speaker A:2024.
Speaker A: So either: Speaker A:Man, that feels like a really big trend and opportunity for new age movement to really convol like convert culture.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Many applied health modalities, including applied kinesiology incorporate a pan synthetic occult philosophy.
Speaker A:So a spiritual experience that can basically entice an unsus, like an unsuspect unsuspecting, I can't invulnerable patient.
Speaker A:Uh, this can lead to tons of different types of pervertive thinking also about God and just the direct contrary of what the Bible teaches.
Speaker A:And it's true because I've seen that consistently where I've had Christians come into my office and there almost is somewhat of a universalism of us being connected through like, almost like because we are a part of creation that makes us closer and a part of God which isn't true.
Speaker A:It actually shows that we are less a part of God, especially being in a sinful world.
Speaker A:And I think that's the whole point.
Speaker A:But Christians have like, there is definitely a theology seeping in of.
Speaker A:But like this says like it's a, it's an occult or pan theistic theology of like God and us in the universe.
Speaker A:They're all one.
Speaker A:And that's not biblical.
Speaker A:Okay, so it's true that applied kinesiology is not directly addressed in the Bible.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I just want to make that clear.
Speaker A:And we're called to exercise wisdom, discernment and prudence in regard to those specific issues.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Especially when the Bible is silent.
Speaker A:This is where we are called to do our own research and look into it.
Speaker A:So if you've kind of just blindly gone and tried things like me, I can, I can hold myself accountable.
Speaker A:And I feel like this is something I need to repent about because I just tried it, not thinking really anything of it and not knowing what it was based from or where it came from and just kind of trusted that because other Christians were doing it, it must be okay.
Speaker A:And that's not biblical at all.
Speaker A:Even though I never really felt 100% about it.
Speaker A:But I also didn't feel not good about it.
Speaker A:And I don't know why.
Speaker A:If like I didn't have, I don't know, I didn't have a conviction, but I didn't ask for one either.
Speaker A:And I think that's a problem on my end.
Speaker A:So while life forces or chi have not been proven by science, by the way, they're not well recognized as a feature of paganism either.
Speaker A:The manifestation of these quote unquote life forces, whether it's ancient paganism, modern occultism, parapsychology, or you know, pair.
Speaker A:What is it called?
Speaker A:It's parapsychological research.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:They have all been accompanied by altered states of consciousness, like psychic phenomena and contact with spirits, every single one of them.
Speaker A:Because in order to reach that in depth, biggest like deepest state, you have to have some sort of spiritual like significance.
Speaker A:And that's what they do with chi specifically, if you want to get into that, they call on to the Kundalini spirit and they call on to different types of spirits to lead and pull out their chi.
Speaker A:And if you think otherwise, you haven't looked into that type of medicine yet in Chinese medicine or even Hinduism, because I did when I was in school.
Speaker A:I was forced to learn about it and it actually showed me so much more of the occult side.
Speaker A:So to those of you who have like delved into that type of pagan or occult world, just know that you can repent from it.
Speaker A:I came from that.
Speaker A:That's actually a part of my testimony.
Speaker A:So when I went into whole mystic holistic medicine, I was kind of nervous going back into it because I was scared I was going to be tempted.
Speaker A:But actually it was the exact opposite.
Speaker A:I knew how to combat it because I was a part of that world for so long.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But that also God made it very clear and specific for me.
Speaker A:That doesn't mean you are called into it.
Speaker A:So there is an association and a participation in these practices.
Speaker A:You have to associate with it and you have to participate with it.
Speaker A:It's not just like slight participation.
Speaker A:And these are 100% not allowed biblically.
Speaker A: You can go to Leviticus: Speaker A:And also Isaiah 8, 19, okay.
Speaker A:Applied kinesiologists believe that there is an inner power and an innate intelligence.
Speaker A:Okay, Quote, unquote, innate intelligence, which is said to be connected to the universal intelligence that Christians will then claim, well, you know, it's God.
Speaker A:Your body is made with an overall intelligence.
Speaker A:It can self heal, it can do all these things.
Speaker A:It's just not.
Speaker A:Then it's connected to the Lord.
Speaker A:Okay, you seeing how these things can get blended really easily through our nervous system?
Speaker A:That's where they connect it to.
Speaker A:It's all through our central nervous system.
Speaker A:So this theory operates within the context of pantheism.
Speaker A:And I don't think Christians understand that, that all reality is God.
Speaker A:God is impersonal.
Speaker A:I am impersonal, but conscious energy.
Speaker A:Therefore all reality is manifested of spiritual energy.
Speaker A:And if this energy can be released, man will be brought and healed, mystically enlightened and come to his true divinity through Christ.
Speaker A:Does this sound biblically accurate in any way?
Speaker A:The actual manifestations of this energy or healings have convinced many New Age pantheism Christians that it must be true.
Speaker A:Which provides kind of a motive for satanic forces, in my opinion, to be able to manifest in these healings.
Speaker A:Because demonic things can hurt you.
Speaker A:The Bible teaches that God is personal.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:He's personal.
Speaker A:He also desires an intimate relationship with us.
Speaker A:You can see that in John 1:12, John 14, through John 14:6 and John 3:16, of course, that he got God loves us, that he acts or intervenes on behalf of those who call upon his name.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:Because throughout the Bible, there are records that God enters into individual covenants, uh, he responds to specific prayers of individuals, and he delivers specific messages.
Speaker A:God is a specific personal God.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:So we are supposed to call onto him to develop a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:That relationship is dependent on God's grace, not on any works that we do.
Speaker A:And that's specific in Ephesians 2, 8, 9.
Speaker A:So if you take the biblical worldview of God, that while God is of course omnipresent, which I think that's in psalm.
Speaker A:Yeah, Psalm 139, 7, 16, he is also transcendent, but not a part of creation.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:So that's why we, we look at the difference between someone who, you know, like, really gives into applied kinesiology or muscle testing that we're a part of creation.
Speaker A:Creation is a part of God is a part of creation.
Speaker A:No, he's not.
Speaker A:Because creation has fallen from God, it is sinful.
Speaker A: of creation, which is in Acts: Speaker A:This is a belief that God's omnipresence is not synonymous with a belief that God is in everything and everything is in God.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:God is not in everything and does not approve of everything because there is sin here.
Speaker A:Because we are in a realm of darkness, idolatry and demonic activity of powers and principalities that we're instructed to avoid.
Speaker A:Ephesians 5, 11, 1st Peter 5, 8.
Speaker A:So if we're followers of Christ, we're called to walk in the light and be distinct in how we live.
Speaker A:So we walk differently than the world.
Speaker A:Uh, that's first Thessalonians 5, 5.
Speaker A:So, okay, now if we're looking at these biblical teachings alone, on top of, of course, the scientific studies, these type of New Age philosophies of applied kinesiology can't be considered consistent biblically.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Of course, scientifically.
Speaker A:I showed you guys first how it's completely inaccurate, consistently inaccurate in all of its studies, but also just biblically for Christians, it doesn't match up.
Speaker A:There are two.
Speaker A:Both of these.
Speaker A:It just doesn't match up.
Speaker A:And I want you guys to think of Colossians 2, 8, because I feel like this gives the best advice when we're thinking about anything, let alone applied kinesiology and pseudo scientific practices that, you know, claim to be holistic.
Speaker A:But there's just.
Speaker A:Because it's holistic doesn't mean it's holistic.
Speaker A:And that's the whole point of this podcast.
Speaker A:We want to incorporate biblical philosophies, not New Age philosophies.
Speaker A:So Colossians 2.
Speaker A:8 says, See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and basic principles of this world rather than Christ.
Speaker A:If we are looking at basic principles of biblical principles, everything about applied kinesiology from when it was created to how it can possibly be used now, you can't not use it without doing the meridian thing.
Speaker A:And so we're going to go back.
Speaker A:Remember when I mentioned that at the beginning it comes to those five different concepts?
Speaker A:What was it?
Speaker A:I'm gonna scroll back in my notes.
Speaker A:The nervous system, the lymphatic system, the vascular system, the cerebral spinal, and the meridian.
Speaker A:And it's because they use the meridian, the fifth one, to be able to look into all the other four.
Speaker A:There's no way for applied kinesiology to be able to separate that.
Speaker A:So then you might be saying Savannah, but when I'm at home as a Christian and I lean forward, I lean backward, or I do the finger thing or the arm thing or the foot thing, you can do with every part of your body.
Speaker A:Apparently, um, when I'm doing it, my heart is not in the place of, like, I'm doing this, you know, trying to find my, I don't know, my own meridian or whatever it is.
Speaker A:I'm doing it, and I'm asking the Holy Spirit to do it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Well, if.
Speaker A:If you're going to put it that way, the one thing that I would want to ask you is, how do you know it's the Holy Spirit guiding you?
Speaker A:Like, how do you know it truly is the Holy Spirit and it's not just your own intuition or subconscious response being interpreted?
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I'm like, I'm not saying that we can't have genuine discernment on things, but I'll give you guys an example.
Speaker A:Because for years I had a feeling that my issues with my.
Speaker A:My miscarriages had or not years, but for that whole year, I weirdly felt every time I prayed about it, I was like, why do I keep thinking it has to do with my stomach, like, what I'm eating or whatever?
Speaker A:And I checked.
Speaker A:I literally, I had that weird feeling.
Speaker A:But guess what?
Speaker A:I didn't act on it or do things on it or believe that it was true until it was scientifically revealed to me, which then backed up the conviction that I was feeling a year and a half earlier.
Speaker A:So God was speaking to me, but it wasn't like in that one moment for one second because your gut has so many different things attached to it.
Speaker A:So that's why when I brought all these ailments and issues to my friend who did do, who's a, she's a nutritionist, but also like a holistic nutritionist.
Speaker A:But she did muscle testing.
Speaker A:We did both.
Speaker A:But ultimately it was a guessing game of trying to figure out what it had to do with my stomach.
Speaker A:And then, you know, too, halfway through the year, I was like, maybe it doesn't have anything to do with my stomach.
Speaker A:Like I have no idea at this point.
Speaker A:And I really, truly surrendered it to God and he revealed it to me through chronic, what I thought were UTIs, but it wasn't.
Speaker A:It was a yeast infection in my stomach.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So going back to the question of me saying, how do you truly know it's the Holy Spirit and not just your own intuition, um, I would say one scripture teaches us to test all spirits.
Speaker A:First John 4:1, right?
Speaker A:Hidden knowledge, divination or non verified guidance is not something that we want to be able to be a part of at all as Christians.
Speaker A:Also, the Holy Spirit speaks to us through His Word.
Speaker A:2nd Timothy 3:16 through 17.
Speaker A:Prayer and Godly wisdom, you know, is different and not typically through bodily signals or tests without biblical precedent in general.
Speaker A:My last thing is, is that muscle testing, even when it's used in a Christian language, can still be shifted as a person's.
Speaker A:Like shifting a person's trust away from God's word towards more subjective signs which can become a form of sorcery or divination practice.
Speaker A: And that's in Deuteronomy: Speaker A:So that's a big one that I think Christians do not think about.
Speaker A:And the other thing is too, using muscle testing and saying that it's guided by the Holy Spirit doesn't necessarily or inherently make it biblical.
Speaker A:The test itself isn't found in scripture and its roots and function and physical and objective or subjective making is not spiritual in a biblical sense, but spiritual in an unbiblical sense and is not reliably divine at all.
Speaker A:God also invites us to walk by faith and not by signals from the body, not by your own intuition, but walk towards him through faith alone and to let His Spirit speak through scripture, prayer and truth, not muscle reactions.
Speaker A:So I think another thing that can get confusing is people are like, well it's not just the muscle reactions, like there is a physiological response through frequencies.
Speaker A:Okay, I love this.
Speaker A:Let's talk about it.
Speaker A:Let's talk about the difference between muscle testing or applied kinesiology and frequencies, because there is a significant difference.
Speaker A:And I think this is what made me feel like, oh, it's just kind of the same as when I work with herbs or supplements or all those things.
Speaker A:Or when I plant herbs in the back.
Speaker A:You guys have heard me use this multiple times.
Speaker A:Where it's actually been proven scientifically that when you work with herbs or when you speak.
Speaker A:Oh my gosh, there's so many examples.
Speaker A:Which one do I start with?
Speaker A:Um, okay, let's use water and words.
Speaker A:When you speak and say like, I hate you, I don't like you, you're the.
Speaker A:When you say those things into water, when you say it into water, the water itself will actually crystallize in a sharp, jagged way.
Speaker A:If you say it into food, it molds a lot faster.
Speaker A:There are repetitive experiments that have shown over and over and over again that specific verbiage or specific frequencies.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Actually do affect the world around you.
Speaker A:Same thing with positive frequencies.
Speaker A:So they've used it for like saying, I love you, you're beautiful, you're amazing.
Speaker A:And even praying over food, praying over water, even your plants, that they'll grow better in a room with certain types of music and speech and language versus harsh music and harsh speech and harsh language.
Speaker A:Or even a harsher frequency.
Speaker A:Just a sound, no words attached to it at all.
Speaker A:Biblically, scripture backs up over and over again that your speech matters, that it's sharper than the word is, sharper than any two edged sword.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I again, science and biblical word backing each other up consistently.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:You guys have also listened to, I'm sure my frequency episodes where I showed scientific data, even in military data, where they've used frequencies even from far away to make people's hearts stop or even, you know, have bowel movements to be able to control them on the battlefield and tons of other things.
Speaker A:So it's insane.
Speaker A:And, and also too, God the fir.
Speaker A:If you think of Genesis, God did what he spoke in Genesis 1:1 and life and light existed, energy existed, speaking frequencies actually create a type of life source, a type of light.
Speaker A:Um, same thing if you think about when a baby, an egg and a sperm meet in.
Speaker A:I think it's in the fallopian tube.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because then it travels down the zygote.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:When a sperm and an egg meet, a light even comes out of it.
Speaker A:And that light source radiates a type of energy.
Speaker A:So speaking Frequencies, right.
Speaker A:Sound.
Speaker A:Sound and light waves and heat waves are all measured by energy.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:This is all scientifically backed up and they all can be interconnected and also separated.
Speaker A:So if that makes sense.
Speaker A:Muscle testing, okay.
Speaker A:Muscle testing is a form of measurement of how your body responds physiologically only.
Speaker A:So a lot of people will say, I'm reading your frequencies, I'm reading your energy.
Speaker A:But specifically, muscle testing testing is trying to read a spiritual energy or life source off of your organs and muscles and minerals and vitamins of your body, where frequency testing is completely different.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:So applied kinesiology, the base idea of it, that muscle strength can indicate imbalances of the body, including nutritional deficiencies, organ dysfunction, or emotional.
Speaker A:Emotional stress.
Speaker A:Not to mention all the other things that they supposedly claim that they can do that we talked about earlier.
Speaker A:Well, frequencies on the nervous system, which is called frequency based therapies, okay.
Speaker A:They claim to be able to detect and adjust energetic frequencies of the body, promoting healing.
Speaker A:They use electrodes or pads to measure or respond biofeedback, okay.
Speaker A:And it, even with the limited scientific backing, it's often considered to be a resourceful use of measuring frequencies in the body or measuring imbalances in the body much more than muscle testing.
Speaker A:So they.
Speaker A:The biofield thing, because people also say like, well, what about people's biofield and you know, their aura, energy or whatever?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:There can be dips in the biofield and people can genuinely measure it the same way that when you cut a plant in half, they measure the biofield with the plant, not cut in half.
Speaker A:So think about a leaf, think of it whole sitting there and then imagine like a radio frequency kind of bouncing around the leaf.
Speaker A:If you cut that leaf in half and take off the top part of the leaf, the bio frequency of the top half of the leaf will still be there.
Speaker A:So the leaf will still have that bio frequency for a certain amount of time.
Speaker A:And then guess what, the leaf can grow back that part of the bio frequency.
Speaker A:People also think that that tends to be why humans.
Speaker A:Like when you get a limb cut off, even though you can't grow it back, sometimes they'll get like phantom feeling of like their hand or their limbs still being there.
Speaker A:I don't know if that's necessarily true, but I don't know.
Speaker A:But anyway, to.
Speaker A:Just to show the difference.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:No, applied kinesiology is not the same as using frequencies on the nervous system.
Speaker A:They're completely different.
Speaker A:Applied kinesiology is a diagnostic method using muscle testing and frequency therapies aim to Stimulate or balance the body via electrical or vibrational input.
Speaker A:They're totally different.
Speaker A:Completely different.
Speaker A:And what I personally think is what we mentioned earlier, how Christians can put Christianese into things that are not biblical and then try to make it biblical.
Speaker A:That happens, I think, with muscle testing.
Speaker A:So looking at the whole perspective and now looking back at my, like, you know, how I came in, I genuinely thought muscle testing was like a super innocent thing.
Speaker A:I thought that even though it started, you know, I compared it to yoga, like I said before, even though it's kind of rooted and things that, you know, I don't know, I.
Speaker A:I didn't know what it was rooted in, to be honest.
Speaker A:I just thought it was more like, oh, you know, like Eastern teachings, whatever.
Speaker A:But people can take biblical things out of context.
Speaker A:No, I think people mix up applied kinesiology and frequencies.
Speaker A:I also think people purposely leave out the meridian aspect of it.
Speaker A:But that's literally the whole base of muscle testing.
Speaker A:So I think Christians who do do this and who actually are pretty decent at it, one, I do think that they're just more sensitive to frequencies because there are people, some people are more sensitive to sound and more sensitive to actual, like, vibrations off of people.
Speaker A:And that's why some people's hands can even get hot.
Speaker A:Because your frequencies, the energies in your body, can just be running at a higher temperature.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But that doesn't mean it's necessarily a life force.
Speaker A:It's totally different.
Speaker A:And that's why some people also don't resonated with it at all.
Speaker A:Um, like for me, when it came to actual physical muscle testing, I was like, I don't resonate with this practice.
Speaker A:It doesn't feel like it makes a difference.
Speaker A:But for me and my husband, we both really feel a difference.
Speaker A:Like, whenever I play that colon sound or frequency, whenever I had a colon flare up, I could feel it.
Speaker A:I could literally feel.
Speaker A:It felt like a liquid, cool, liquid coolant in my body.
Speaker A:But that's because it's an actual sound penetrating and meeting the exact same sound that my body needed for my colon.
Speaker A:So those are two measurable things that my body noticed and needed.
Speaker A:And some people, I guess, could take that and be like, well, look, then that's technically a type of muscle testing.
Speaker A:But no, it's not.
Speaker A:My body's not becoming weaker or stronger while I'm going through sound therapy or frequency therapy.
Speaker A:I can just feel like I'm coming back to my healthy neutral and I'm not using a supplement or anything else to feel better or trusting someone else.
Speaker A:To tell me.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Anyway, I, I, I, I just, I want to say that I was genuinely shocked that like where muscle testing genuinely stemmed from and came from also too, when we took those teachings and applied it to the Bible and how off putting it was.
Speaker A:And I've heard Christians speak like that before and I just, I didn't really realize how universalist it still was.
Speaker A:So I just wanted to use this platform to be able to share.
Speaker A:I actually personally think that this is casting a great casting sea or I'm sorry, planting seed episode because this planted a deeper seed of faith in to where I was like, man, yeah, I didn't resonate with it well, I didn't necessarily like it or love it and I couldn't put my finger on it why.
Speaker A:And now I wish I looked into it sooner.
Speaker A:I felt like God was trying to protect me from something that wasn't inherently biblical.
Speaker A:And I'm really thankful for that.
Speaker A:So I know that there are some people out there who are like, well, muscle testing still works great for me and it always has and I want to use it.
Speaker A:And I just want to ask you to really pray about it and get into the word about it because I just don't see how there's any biblical take on how it would be.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And just because it's possible doesn't mean it's always permissible biblically.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, it's possible for me and my husband to start doing pornography we wanted and selling it on the Internet and make a lot of money.
Speaker A:Is it permissible?
Speaker A:No, absolutely not.
Speaker A:It's possible for me to cheat on my husband if I wanted to.
Speaker A:I'm sure.
Speaker A:Is it permissible?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:It's possible for me to start doing.
Speaker A:I don't even know.
Speaker A:I was just trying to think of like horrific things.
Speaker A:Yeah, just, I'm just saying, and some of you may be like, wow, it's not comparable in that way.
Speaker A:Sin is a sin, is a sin, is a sin.
Speaker A:It's all sin in the eyes of the Lord.
Speaker A:So with that, I'm kind of nervous about how you guys are going to respond to this episode and the reactions I'm gonna get.
Speaker A:But you know what I mean?
Speaker A:At the end of the day, I'm not here to make people comfortable.
Speaker A:God's not here to make me comfortable.
Speaker A:We're all here to grow together.
Speaker A:So I'm really interested to hear and see what you all think after listening to this.
Speaker A:All right, I did it.
Speaker A:I made the episode that I've been kind of regretting to do.
Speaker A:But I love you guys.
Speaker A:I'm very thankful for those of you who still stuck around to the end, who still want to listen to this podcast and just know I'm gonna admit when I need to repent about things.
Speaker A:And this is something that I feel like both Jeremiah and I need to repent about because we've done it and had no qualms and we need to say sorry to the Lord.
Speaker A:So actually, you know what?
Speaker A:I'll just pray right now really quickly.
Speaker A:I'll do it again later with Jeremiah.
Speaker A:Lord, I just want to take a moment to genuinely repent and again over something that I had no idea that I was doing.
Speaker A:And I feel like that's the story of my life.
Speaker A:I also just want to thank you for people who have looked into this and who have given great research and findings on how things do or don't work, especially from third parties, the fact that we have the Internet to be able to look into these things.
Speaker A:All I do, all I'm doing is discussing hard work that other people did.
Speaker A:And I just want to thank you for even using non Christians and Christians alike to be able to use this information and research and give it to us to give us your wisdom and your discernment.
Speaker A:But I do.
Speaker A:I want to apologize, Lord, because I didn't.
Speaker A:Now, looking back, I wonder if it was conviction that I personally ignored.
Speaker A:But I do know that I was indifferent because I was struggling so hard and I felt so horrible after the miscarriages and I felt so sick and awful.
Speaker A:And I could have genuinely and seriously at that time just saw it as permissible.
Speaker A:Like, oh, you know, I just feel bad.
Speaker A:And I, because I was willing to try anything and even in the lowest of the low points, I can't be willing to do that.
Speaker A:I have to be willing to listen to you first and foremost through every aspect.
Speaker A:And you know, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm thankful for.
Speaker A:This is a weird thing to say.
Speaker A:I'm very thankful for having that sinful nature and being able to look back and grow on it.
Speaker A:And I'm even more thankful that that sinful nature didn't.
Speaker A:I guess I did cause others to stumble because I brought Jeremiah along.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Man, sin really never does just affect me.
Speaker A:I am.
Speaker A:But I am repentive and sorry, Lord, that I also caused my husband to stumble looking into this and also just not being vigilant and not doing my own research just because I was lazy and exhausted and I should have taken more time to do that.
Speaker A:But I did gain a wonderful friend through that experience who she's actually no longer practicing.
Speaker A:I don't fully know why, but maybe this is a part of it, I don't know.
Speaker A:But I do pray that anyone who does listen to this episode understands that if they are getting conviction from you, it's conviction to do research and look, then look it up for themselves and to also look into your word and to constantly allow you to lead and nothing else.
Speaker A:There's no such thing as internal intuition.
Speaker A:We shouldn't be following the flesh, we shouldn't be following our heart.
Speaker A:We should be following you 110,000%.
Speaker A:And I feel like that's the base of all of muscular testing is following self and following the flesh.
Speaker A:And I don't want to be a part of that.
Speaker A:Even in holistic health, it's anti biblical and I would be willing to walk away from an entire practice if that meant following you, Lord.
Speaker A:And even this podcast, if it ever came to that point where it was time to step away and Jeremiah and I prayed that not too long ago and you called us to stay in it.
Speaker A:So maybe it was just for this, I don't know.
Speaker A:But Lord, I.
Speaker A:I wanna repent to my listeners and to you wholeheartedly and just say that I'm sorry that I didn't look into this sooner and that I was kind of pretty much okay with it.
Speaker A:I was okay with not having an answer and that's not okay.
Speaker A:So Lord, thank you so much for your conviction and your willingness to lead us all individually and have individual relationships with us and call us to individualize discernment, which is literally a part of our opener.
Speaker A:And I just pray that this episode truly speaks to those who needs to hear it and is shared with those who really do.
Speaker A:They need to hear it.
Speaker A:And that's the whole purpose of this podcast.
Speaker A:I love you Lord.
Speaker A:And I'm also doing a poll right now today.
Speaker A:So if you guys tomorrow morning when this airs, if you're listening, you will be able to see the poll on what people who are following me, who are Christians or non Christians think about muscle testing, which will be interesting as well.
Speaker A:So thank you for listening and as always, keep casting seats.
Speaker A:We hope you enjoyed learning how to cultivate God's creation from a biblical perspective.
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Speaker A:Only spiritual salvation through sanctification and repentance to God and turning away from sin will give you a perfect body in the kingdom come.
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