Episode 61
Interview with Shan Wright and Holistic Nursing
The conversation unfolds as I, Savannah, delve into the life-altering experiences of Shan Wright, a wellness accountability coach, who eloquently articulates her transition from conventional nursing to a holistic approach to health. This episode intricately examines the challenges and revelations encountered by Shan during her journey, particularly in the realm of motherhood and the accompanying pressures of postpartum anxiety. We engage in a profound dialogue about how faith played a pivotal role in her transformation, guiding her towards a holistic understanding of wellness that integrates physical, emotional, and spiritual health.
Shan’s candid reflections on her struggles resonate deeply as we discuss the significance of identity rooted in Christ rather than professional roles. The narrative emphasizes the importance of community and accountability in fostering personal growth and wellness. Throughout the episode, we aim to empower our listeners, encouraging them to embrace their unique journeys towards holistic health and spiritual fulfillment, while reinforcing the belief that true wellness is a multifaceted endeavor that encompasses all aspects of life.
Takeaways:
- The holistic approach to wellness emphasizes the importance of addressing both physical and spiritual health in our lives.
- Shan's journey as a wellness accountability coach highlights the significance of personal identity beyond professional roles, particularly in motherhood.
- A key aspect of holistic health is the integration of community support and accountability in achieving wellness goals.
- The importance of spending intentional time with God as foundational to overall wellness cannot be overstated in this podcast episode.
- Navigating the challenges of motherhood while maintaining personal wellness requires intentional effort and prioritization of self-care activities.
- The discussion on deliverance and trauma elucidates the complex interplay between spiritual and emotional health within the context of holistic wellness.
Links referenced in this episode:
- www.theshanright.com
- @theshanright
- Holistic Moms podcast
Transcript
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Speaker A:Welcome back to Casting Seeds.
Speaker A:I'm Savannah, your holistic health practitioner and host.
Speaker A:And I'm so thankful and excited and just really honored because Shan, who we have on today, is so sweet and has given me so much grace in planning this because my life has been so chaotic lately.
Speaker A:But I'm just so honored to have her on.
Speaker A:Shan Wright is a wellness accountability coach.
Speaker A:She has an amazing podcast called Whole List Holistic Moms Podcast, which, if you guys like this podcast, obviously, Holistic Moms Podcast is amazing.
Speaker A:Also, I was interviewed on her podcast, which we talked about a few weeks ago, and it's going to be coming out soon, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yep, it will be.
Speaker B:I don't know the exact date, but it'll be coming.
Speaker A:I'm excited you guys will be seeing me sharing it on Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker A:But she is a wellness rn, and I actually love one of the topics that she talks about often is being a truth seeker, and especially, you know, being a sister in Christ.
Speaker A:I just really love the fact that she is very honest and vulnerable with that.
Speaker A:So I just am so excited to have you on, Shannon.
Speaker A:Sorry, Shan.
Speaker B:Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker B:I'm super excited.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Is there anything about you specifically, like, being a wellness rn?
Speaker A:Like, what.
Speaker A:What is that compared to a regular RN for people who don't know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, really, it's something I have, I don't know, maybe deemed myself.
Speaker B:But when I think of a typical nurse, you think of someone in the hospital caring for you with pills and, you know, taking care of your physical needs, which, yes, nurses do.
Speaker B:But I really just look at the holistic body.
Speaker B:And so I have been in the traditional space for about 10 years and then have left that.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh, almost 10 years ago, I've left that space.
Speaker B:And so I now am just looking and caring for people's holistic wellness.
Speaker B:And I don't want to identify myself as a just a nurse.
Speaker B:I'm more a holistic wellness nurse.
Speaker A:Was it hard to leave that space and, like, trust God in the next chapter?
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness, yes.
Speaker B:That's, like, part of my huge story because it was during a move.
Speaker B:I was pregnant with our second baby.
Speaker B:I was about 30 weeks pregnant.
Speaker B:And we moved across the country from California to Indiana and, you know, started a brand new life.
Speaker B:I never lived in Indiana.
Speaker B:I was living by my husband's family at this point.
Speaker B:I've never liked, lived away from my family, except for this.
Speaker B:I was a travel nurse.
Speaker B:So I did that.
Speaker B:And they were like, you're gonna Never come back home.
Speaker B:I was like, oh my gosh, no, I.
Speaker B:I will always come home.
Speaker B:Like, I don't know.
Speaker B:And of course I didn't.
Speaker B:I ended up in Indiana.
Speaker B:And long story short, I took my six months maternity leave and then started looking for a nursing job and just, you know, as, as you would go back to work.
Speaker B:But I started looking and I was like, I don't know, I can't find anything that I really want to do.
Speaker B:I now have two kids to take care of.
Speaker B:How am I supposed to do all the training to start a new job?
Speaker B:I don't have seniority anywhere.
Speaker B:Just all the things.
Speaker B:I almost went into a hospice position because it was so flexible.
Speaker B:I was a cancer nurse for 10 years and hospice was always close to my heart.
Speaker B:And I was like, well, that might be a good transition.
Speaker B:And one of my just acquaintances that was a mom that I knew that was a hospice nurse in this, with this company, she said, do you really want to do this right now?
Speaker B:Like, I don't.
Speaker B:She's like, I just want you to sit with that question.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I feel prompted to ask you, do you really want to go into nursing right now, go back into nursing?
Speaker B:And I was like, okay.
Speaker B:So I took that question of prayer and God reminded me, remember why you went into nursing because you wanted to be a mom.
Speaker B:Like, I never even wanted to go into nursing.
Speaker B:I just wanted to be a mom.
Speaker B:And people in my life were like, nursing is the most flexible career.
Speaker B:You should just be a nurse.
Speaker B:You're good with the body, like anatomy.
Speaker B:And I was like, okay.
Speaker B:So I became a nurse so I could be a mom and be flexible with my career.
Speaker B:And so God reminded me of this dream.
Speaker B:And he said, this is the time.
Speaker B:This is the time to put nursing on the back burner and be a stay at home mom.
Speaker B:And I was like, really?
Speaker B:He's like, yes.
Speaker B:You just moved to Indiana from California.
Speaker B:Like, it's easy to go down to one income right now.
Speaker B:Yeah, so I did.
Speaker B:And then I didn't realize.
Speaker B:Like, I was excited, but at the same time I was like, I don't want to lose this role.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:Well, I thought it was my identity, this identity of being a nurse.
Speaker B:And so God taught me through an entire year journey that my identity is not being a nurse.
Speaker B:It was a role that I was playing and it was a job I had.
Speaker B:But my identity is way more than that.
Speaker B:I am a child of his and he created my kingdom identity.
Speaker B:And so it was, honestly, I say, a year Process because I kind of grieved letting go of.
Speaker B:Someone asked me, what do you do?
Speaker B:And I'm like a nurse.
Speaker B:And I had a grieve letting go of that because I didn't think I could call myself a nurse anymore.
Speaker B:And it was that really identity piece that I was struggling with.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:That's the most relatable thing ever.
Speaker A:Especially now for me becoming a mom.
Speaker A:I love holistic health so much, and thinking that I even have to possibly lose my office within the next six months.
Speaker A:Like, literally the idea that makes me want to cry.
Speaker A:And then I'm not going to be able to be there for my clients in the same way and love on people in the same way, because it's true.
Speaker A:It becomes a part of your identity because it's a part of your ministry.
Speaker A:And then when God, like, takes you back and then goes, but your first ministry is your marriage, your second ministry is now going to be your kids.
Speaker A:And then everything outside of that is last.
Speaker A:And it's like, oh, it's a knife in the heart.
Speaker A:But also in the best way because, you know, like, same.
Speaker A:I've always wanted to be a married wife, which I love.
Speaker A:I love being a wife.
Speaker A:And I've also always wanted to be a mother.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's hard because you know that your identity has to change a little bit.
Speaker A:But if your identity is solely in Christ, then it's still the same.
Speaker A:It's just your ministry is changing.
Speaker A:So I love that you said that.
Speaker A:And it's so relatable, especially with people on our podcast know that Jeremiah has been trying for different jobs and things like that.
Speaker A:And it's something that men especially struggle with, you know, like not having that identity be in their job, but wherever God is taking them.
Speaker A:So it is so relatable.
Speaker A:So thank you for being vulnerable and honest in that, because I feel like when people actually submit into it, God then is able.
Speaker A:Well, he's able to do whatever he wants.
Speaker A:But if he's like, okay, cool, you're not fighting me tooth and nail to continue on the walk that I want you to be on.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it wasn't.
Speaker B:So it was like a year of learning that being a nurse was not my identity.
Speaker B:And then it's been a process ever since of really being rooted in my kingdom identity and letting everything that I do flow out of that.
Speaker B:My purpose, my calling, my mission, my ministry, my business, my business, administrative put together, everything comes out of that identity once you're rooted, insecure.
Speaker B:And it was really, to jump into my story, but I think a year and a half later, because my kids are two years apart, that I had my third baby, which is when I went through my, my most intense postpartum anxiety up to that point.
Speaker B:I had it all four kids.
Speaker B:But with that third kid, it was when I cried out.
Speaker B:So I was, you know, getting settled at being a stay at home mom and being like, oh, I can do this, I like this.
Speaker B:But I was living under this pressure of perfectionism and striving and anxiety.
Speaker B:And I didn't realize it.
Speaker B:I had covered up this anxiety in so many ways for my entire life.
Speaker B:I only in college called it test anxiety.
Speaker B:Every other time in my life I labeled it something else, shoved it off, disguised it as something else, coped with it in a way.
Speaker B:And in college I actually went to the school counselor because I needed to pass nursing school and I was having test anxiety.
Speaker B:And so it was the only time I admitted to having an issue and getting help for it.
Speaker B:And so then, you know, fast forward, I have all these kids and I go to God and I'm like, I, I'm struggling.
Speaker B:I feel like I don't have control over anything right now.
Speaker B:I want the perfect home.
Speaker B:It's not looking like that.
Speaker B:I, I want the perfect marriage.
Speaker B:I'm failing at being a wife.
Speaker B:I want perfectly behaved kids and this newborn that I have.
Speaker B:Like, I can't take care of all these kids at once and I'm struggling at my perfect relationships.
Speaker B:I had a business, like, once I put down my nursing, I started picking up a little Etsy business, like started my hand in entrepreneurship and I was like, I have this business, I'm trying to do all these things and I can't do them perfectly and I'm failing.
Speaker B:Help me, help me, God.
Speaker B:And he said, no.
Speaker B:It was actually so crazy because just this past weekend I was at a leadership conference for church and we sat with the passage of Mary and Martha, and Martha doing all the things and welcoming Jesus into her home and doing all the things.
Speaker B:And, and Jesus says, and, and the whole prayer that, well, I call it a prayer because she's with Jesus, so she's technically talking to God like I was talking to God.
Speaker B:And she's like, I need help.
Speaker B:Why isn't Mary helping me?
Speaker B:And that's exactly what my prayer was to God.
Speaker B:It was, I need help.
Speaker B:Help my husband to help me, help these kids to, you know, do something.
Speaker B:My, like, help all these people to help me.
Speaker B:Because I'm doing everything alone.
Speaker B:And God said, no, Just like Jesus told Mary, told Martha, Martha, Martha.
Speaker B:Like so comforting and compassionate and empathetic.
Speaker B:I love you, Martha, but you're doing so many things.
Speaker B:And only few things are needed, indeed only one.
Speaker B:And Mary has chosen it.
Speaker B:And that's exactly.
Speaker B:This is a light bulb that went off this weekend.
Speaker B:That's exactly what God told me in my prayer.
Speaker B:I'm crying out for help.
Speaker B:And he said, no, no, Shannon, all these things are not needed.
Speaker B:You're not supposed to do all this stuff perfectly.
Speaker B:And there's only four things that you need and indeed only one.
Speaker B:So he gave me a blueprint for how to live out my holistic wellness.
Speaker B:And it was four things to do, four simple things that I could handle with my busy.
Speaker B:All the.
Speaker B:Like, he knew where I was, the state of my mental.
Speaker B:My mental state and my emotional state.
Speaker B:He knew where I was.
Speaker B:And he gave me four simple things.
Speaker B:And then he said, but most importantly is me this time that you spend with me.
Speaker B:So he's number one.
Speaker B:Resting, abiding in him is always number one.
Speaker B:And there was three other things to do.
Speaker B:And of course, they all had to do with connecting to others as well and loving myself and loving others.
Speaker B:So I was like, wow, like he.
Speaker B:Yeah, he knew what I needed, when I needed it.
Speaker B:And that started my holistic wellness journey of caring for myself.
Speaker B:And really my.
Speaker B:I like learning my identity and who I am and how to take care of me.
Speaker B:And then my story goes on from there of helping how.
Speaker B:Of helping others do the same.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, I mean, it sounds like God, like, really re stated like his two commandments.
Speaker A:Love God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, and love one another as you yourself.
Speaker A:People.
Speaker A:I can't even.
Speaker A:I mean, that's.
Speaker A:I mean, people have known because of me, you know, dealing with even my holistic health journey the past few years.
Speaker A:All I did for 10 years was take care of everyone else, take care of everyone else.
Speaker A:And I felt so insecure that I looked really sick.
Speaker A:I looked overweight.
Speaker A:I was helping all these other people get pregnant.
Speaker A:I was having miscarriages.
Speaker A:And God was sitting there the whole time like, as you would yourself, you do this.
Speaker A:And I was like, yes, I know.
Speaker A:So I know.
Speaker A:Well, when you're a caretaker, especially a mom, right, and then a wife on top of that, it's so easy, I think, to lose what it means to actually truly love yourself and what that means in a biblical sense, not in a selfish sense.
Speaker A:Because I've also.
Speaker A:It's easy to get that temptation of like, well, loving Myself today also means I don't feel like doing any of the chores or I don't feel like doing the practical stuff.
Speaker A:That does help me, you know, within the next week because I'm exhausted where actually it is doing the daily healthy regimen of even just having Bible time or understanding.
Speaker A:Like, actually, honey, like, I love you, but I need to go.
Speaker A:Living here in Orange County, I can be like, I just need to go walk on the beach and have prayer time alone with the Lord.
Speaker A:I love you so much, but I just need one on one time with Jesus.
Speaker A:And no spouse who also loves God is going to be like, how dare you, you evil wife.
Speaker A:Never and never ever.
Speaker A:So it's just funny, those little small practical things that we realize that sometimes we need to take those healthy dates and spend time with the Lord and then your.
Speaker A:Your cup is overflowing where you can outpour.
Speaker A:And also use healthy discernment and wisdom when you're helping clients or patients or whatever, or even your kids in the moment because you're spending time with the Holy Spirit, you're dwelling with him.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Oh, I love that.
Speaker A:I love your story so much.
Speaker B:And that's.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:Because I wanted to know your testimony too, because obviously you're such a strong woman in faith and you live that with everything that you do.
Speaker A:Which, by the way, thank you.
Speaker A:Because there aren't a lot of people in our field in any type of health care that I feel like it's easy for us to get pushed down or push aside because we're considered sometimes the crazy, kooky Christians.
Speaker A:And because we filter health care through God, it must not be scientifically backed or based.
Speaker A:So I want to also thank you for that because there aren't very many voices out there that are willing to speak.
Speaker A:And like, we've been attacked a few times, you know, for having our podcast and the things that we've said and done, and we've had to be a little bit more private online, even with our location.
Speaker A:So I want to thank you for you and your husband for being willing to allow you to have this space in your own platform because it's hard out there.
Speaker A:As a believer, especially a woman, I feel like speaking about health in any way, shape or form.
Speaker A:But I want to know your testimony and how you became this amazing woman in faith and was able to even share, like, that awesome moment of sanctification that you had.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker B:Okay, sure.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Well, I grew up in a Christian home, one of five kids, and I.
Speaker B:I don't know very early, was labeled as shy from not only my.
Speaker B:My parents and my family, but also in schooling with my teachers.
Speaker B:And it was shocking if I ever raised my hand and answered a question.
Speaker B:And I heard these things, and so they really affected me.
Speaker B:And I also was very considerate of my mom and, you know, five kids.
Speaker B:I just didn't want to ruffle any feathers.
Speaker B:I wanted to be quiet and the good girl.
Speaker B:So I really wore this.
Speaker B:This badge of honor of being the good, quiet girl in the family.
Speaker B:And, you know, there was so much going on.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Looking back, I'm like, wow.
Speaker B:It was way more chaotic than I even realized at the time.
Speaker B:We went through a lot as a family.
Speaker B:And actually, I guess a little side note that once I was asking a friend about what she saw in me, like, a little characteristic, and she said, strong, which does completely speak to my identity, because one of the first identities God told me was that I'm strong and courageous.
Speaker B:And this was years before.
Speaker B:And she said, you are strong.
Speaker B:She's like, the things that you have been through, and I.
Speaker B:You don't realize it when you're going through it, but they're definitely forming you, and they're shaping you in so many ways.
Speaker B:They're even creating heart wounds.
Speaker B:They're creating these inner vows, these.
Speaker B:These false agreements that you're making in your head.
Speaker B:I, Like, I swore I would never get divorced.
Speaker B:I would never do this and this.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But it's like, that was all out of trauma.
Speaker B:That was all out of wounds that were affecting me.
Speaker B:So anyway, I grew up very, you know, shy, quiet, good girl, perfectionist.
Speaker B:And this stroke, like, it drove good things out of me.
Speaker B:I got straight A's.
Speaker B:I was a good athlete.
Speaker B:I was a good friend.
Speaker B:I was a good daughter.
Speaker B:Like, I didn't make my parents mad.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:You know, I didn't get punished.
Speaker B:I did all these things.
Speaker B:I went to school for nursing, and I actually went.
Speaker B:I was in Christian school my whole life, and so I was very comfortable there.
Speaker B:So I went to a Christian private college for nursing, and I didn't realize that was, like, one of the best things.
Speaker B:I mean, obviously, in hindsight, I'm like, wow, God, you even.
Speaker B:You plan that out?
Speaker B:Because they taught me holistic wellness in nursing school, and I didn't know that was unique.
Speaker B:Looking back, I'm like, wow.
Speaker B:I was taught in nursing school that we are spiritual beings in physical form, that you have to care for the person's spiritual wellness if you're caring for their physical wellness.
Speaker A:What school is this?
Speaker A:Sorry, I have to ask.
Speaker B:It's called Messiah College and it's now Messiah University.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But, yes, I went to Messiah College and was taught that and didn't know it was unique.
Speaker B:I was overwhelmed.
Speaker B:I was stressed out.
Speaker B:I had high anxiety.
Speaker B:So I was just like, I don't think I.
Speaker B:I don't know, even had time to process what I was learning and what was happening in my life.
Speaker B:Hence why I went to the school counselor.
Speaker B:And this is funny, because she, you know, I'm going to her.
Speaker B:I have test anxiety.
Speaker B:And so she's talking to me about my life and.
Speaker B:And things and sh.
Speaker B:And I'm like.
Speaker B:She's like, well, what are you doing this weekend?
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, and I have everything planned out by the hour, by the half hour, and, like, shower, eat lunch, study, you know.
Speaker B:And she's like, where's their fun on that?
Speaker B:And I'm like, oh, we don't have time for fun.
Speaker B:You know, finals are coming.
Speaker B:And she's like, yes, your assignment is to put fun on your calendar.
Speaker B:So I learned back then that I'm a very fun person, but I was so strung out on anxiety that it was affecting even having fun in college.
Speaker B:So I didn't know how much it was affecting my whole life.
Speaker B:I thought I wasn't passing tests because of it.
Speaker B:I didn't realize it was affecting my whole life.
Speaker B:So therefore, I called it test anxiety.
Speaker B:Well, fast forward.
Speaker B:You know, I got into past nursing.
Speaker B:I got into an amazing job and very quickly learned that what I learned in nursing school is not typical.
Speaker B:Not typical, and it's not traditional nursing.
Speaker B:And I, you know, but I'm a high achiever.
Speaker B:And so I adapted and I started practicing as everyone else, but it never felt soul aligned.
Speaker B:I was actually on a podcast a year or so ago, and it's called.
Speaker B:It was about your soul being aligned to your career.
Speaker B:And I was like, that's correct.
Speaker B:I never felt soul aligned to a traditional nursing job.
Speaker B:I felt like I was pushing pills and I couldn't.
Speaker B:You didn't have time to take care of someone's spiritual wellness and their physical wellness while they're also fighting cancer and, like, acute situations are arising every two seconds.
Speaker B:You don't.
Speaker B:I was very.
Speaker B:This is a comment that I got often from, like, co workers, like, why don't you smile more?
Speaker B:Like, what's what?
Speaker B:You know, what's so wrong?
Speaker B:I'm like, I am.
Speaker B:Well, I'm dealing with life and death right now, and.
Speaker B:And I'm very, like, I Wanted to.
Speaker B:I wanted to take care of the whole person.
Speaker B:And I was stressed out, I think, mentally, all shift, every shift, because I couldn't.
Speaker B:Like, it just didn't sit well.
Speaker B:It just didn't.
Speaker B:It wasn't aligned.
Speaker B:And so, you know, I do the traditional thing for 10 years, and there was some good nursing jobs that I had and ones that felt better, ones that were at a different pace where I could sit with some patients and then others that were awful.
Speaker B:Like, it was just.
Speaker B:There was all, like, being a travel nurse.
Speaker B:I had a variety.
Speaker B:But then, you know, I.
Speaker B:I became a mom, and I put nursing down for that time.
Speaker B:And again.
Speaker B:I told you.
Speaker B:I experienced my third bout of postpartum anxiety, and it was that time when God, I had that conversation.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Well, I had the conversation after the prayer conversation, after I was on my way to a postpartum appointment, and I was listening to a podcast, and there was someone on sharing her postpartum anxiety.
Speaker B:And I started crying, and I was like, this sounds like me.
Speaker B:Wait, do I have postpartum anxiety?
Speaker B:Like, it was that, you know, I hear from my pastor, you should always pay attention when you cry.
Speaker B:Like, those are feelings telling you something.
Speaker B:And it was in that moment that I was like, I think I'm crying because this is what I'm going through.
Speaker B:And so I.
Speaker B:Then I prayed and had this conversation with God, and it was like, yes, you're experiencing postpartum anxiety.
Speaker B:And actually you've had anxiety your whole life, and you've never named it.
Speaker B:You've always, you know, called it something else.
Speaker B:So that was the start of my holistic wellness journey to care for the whole parts of me, every part of me, and realize that this anxiety was affecting my whole life, my relationships, my relationship with my own body, my relationship with my husband, my kids, how I did life.
Speaker B:It was affecting everything.
Speaker B:And so I started on the journey and doing these four actions very seriously, as God gave them to me.
Speaker B:I could have said, you know what?
Speaker B:I don't want to do that, God.
Speaker B:But I knew there was peace on the other side because he.
Speaker B:He promises peace.
Speaker B:He is peace.
Speaker B:And so he's saying, do these things.
Speaker B:And I had to obey.
Speaker B:I had to choose to do these four things.
Speaker B:Now, they're not hard, but I still had to make intentional effort to do them, because, again, I was in this place of anxiety.
Speaker B:I was burnt out.
Speaker B:I was burnt.
Speaker B:And I had to make the effort to go out with my girlfriends.
Speaker B:That was one of them.
Speaker B:Spend time with your girlfriends?
Speaker B:Apart from kids?
Speaker B:No, like, park Playdates don't count.
Speaker B:They're great.
Speaker B:Do them.
Speaker B:They don't count.
Speaker B:You need to have friend time and you have fun.
Speaker B:You need to go laugh and play with your friends.
Speaker B:And I had to schedule that.
Speaker B:And that's hard to do with another.
Speaker B:A bunch of other stressed out moms, like, hey guys, you want to go to dinner?
Speaker B:They're like, no, I don't have time.
Speaker B:And I'm like, okay, but we have to plan it.
Speaker B:So yeah, I had to make so much effort.
Speaker B:And then I've been on this journey and then it was like fast forward.
Speaker B:I had my fourth baby.
Speaker B: Super like: Speaker B:So even more extreme postpartum anxiety.
Speaker B:Actually I had anxiety that entire pregnancy.
Speaker B:So even though I had these things in place and I was taking care of myself, you also have other changes going on in your body, right?
Speaker B:It's like a cyclic.
Speaker B:We're going through changes all the time.
Speaker B:So you always have to adapt to the stress, right?
Speaker B:You're always.
Speaker B:Stress.
Speaker B:Anxiety is on the stress continuum.
Speaker B:And so you're always adapting to new stressors in your life.
Speaker B:And when you're pregnant, there's a lot of other stress.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So I had to start.
Speaker B:Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker B:So I had to start adapting.
Speaker B:And I mean, I didn't know it was anxiety for like I went to the cardiologist during that pregnancy.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:It just comes up in different ways.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It shows up in so many different ways that you sometimes are not sure.
Speaker B: ded up having that baby March: Speaker B:So, you know, it was awful.
Speaker B:But in the middle of it, right at this.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And so there was so much that happened.
Speaker B:But I then went on my journey, took like an upswing.
Speaker B:Like I started in health and wellness networking company, which I started.
Speaker B:And I felt like a nurse again.
Speaker B:And that was amazing because then I was like, oh, I get to help people again.
Speaker B:And this was after I was down off my postpartum anxiety.
Speaker B:I actually helped myself and then I started helping others.
Speaker B:And it did like a 180 for my mental state.
Speaker B:But not only that, my business partner that I started with, she became one of my best friends.
Speaker B:She's an amazing woman of faith.
Speaker B:And so she's the one that helped me like really dive deeper into my faith.
Speaker B:I guess you were asking about my faith testimony.
Speaker B:And I have had faith this whole time.
Speaker B:God has always been with me.
Speaker B:I was saved at age 6 and just continued to grow and be sanctified through.
Speaker B:You know, I went to Christian school my whole life.
Speaker B:Church was always a thing for me.
Speaker B:Spending time God with God personally was always a thing for me.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I had that period in my twenties where I wanted to go my own way and felt awful about it and felt like I can't pray.
Speaker B:I just did that.
Speaker B:And God doesn't want to talk to me.
Speaker B:Like, I had those moments for a couple years, but I.
Speaker B:I was always just, you know, praying.
Speaker B:Always had that relationship with God, but it definitely af.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I guess the end of my 20s started getting real personal, more my own and not any part of my family or my upbringing or my schooling.
Speaker B:It was just like my own relationship with God.
Speaker B:And through all of this holistic wellness journey and then starting with this company and just taking this totally different turn in life that I never saw coming.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker B:She asked me this.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Didn't ask me.
Speaker B:I was crying to her about something, and she said, you're not confident in who you are.
Speaker B:And I was like, what?
Speaker B:She's like, you're confident as a nurse, you're confident as a.
Speaker B:As a mom.
Speaker B:She's like, but you're not confident in you?
Speaker B:And I was like, what?
Speaker B:I cried harder.
Speaker B:I was like, well, how do you get confident in yourself?
Speaker B:And that's when God started speaking to me about my identity.
Speaker B:And he said, you're strong and courageous.
Speaker B:You're not shy, you're not insecure.
Speaker B:Which was feeding a lot of what she was seeing.
Speaker B:And I started working on my identity and growing in confidence, which took courage.
Speaker B:Which steps of courage create confidence.
Speaker B:So it.
Speaker B:That is just like the start of my entrepreneurship journey, which is now where I am, like, helping others and sharing my story so they can grow in their faith and their holistic wellness and all of that.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:Well, because I was going to say it sounds like you were saved at a young age, but yes, you were, because your.
Speaker A:Most of your testimony is sanctification, which I feel like a lot of Christians tend to in the most loving way possible.
Speaker A:Like, because you heard my testimony and it's very intense, like, very much from dark to light.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Which is.
Speaker A:I know that's not as common as a story that people hear, which is why I'm so thankful that God used me for that.
Speaker A:But I also love hearing because, like, this is the story I would want my children to have.
Speaker A:What you are talking about exactly like this.
Speaker A:My greatest fear is for.
Speaker A:I mean, my greatest fear is, honestly, is if my husband somehow wasn't saved and, like, this was all a sham because he's your one flesh, he's your partner, and Then my second would be my kids.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Especially being pregnant.
Speaker A:So hearing things like this, you have no idea how just even on the outskirts of, like, of course, holistically and stuff.
Speaker A:That stuff is amazing.
Speaker A:And hearing you continue to grow and it's healthy.
Speaker A:Even hearing you say, like, of course, yeah.
Speaker A:In my 20s, I questioned things I had.
Speaker A:I was ashamed.
Speaker A:I didn't want to face God in certain stuff.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker A:These are healthy things that people don't talk about.
Speaker A:And I've even had experience from friends having church hurt where they went to churches and were told, like, because you're questioning things, that means you're not saved at all.
Speaker A:You can't be saved and have any questions or have any challenges towards the Lord.
Speaker A:And that's just unbiblical.
Speaker A:It is not true.
Speaker A:Because you can see throughout the Bible, even Job, like, who handled things so well at the end, he was like, but why am I going through this?
Speaker A:This doesn't make sense.
Speaker A:And it doesn't mean that he didn't love God.
Speaker A:It just meant that he wanted to understand what was going on in his life.
Speaker A:And then God, he did answer.
Speaker A:He answered in his own way.
Speaker A:Not in a way Job was expecting or that, I'm not gonna lie, would not be able to handle the way that Job.
Speaker A:No answer.
Speaker A:But that's what I mean.
Speaker A:Like, what you say and what your testimony is is a great testimony, because I don't think enough Christians hear it.
Speaker A:They really focus on, like, well, was repentance involved?
Speaker A:Did you truly repent?
Speaker A:That's all I care about.
Speaker A:If you repented and, you know, you're living as a Christian, the sanctification doesn't matter.
Speaker A:We're all doing that, and it's not true.
Speaker A:So thank you for sharing that, because I.
Speaker A:People always look for the extreme repentance stories kind of like mine.
Speaker A:And I always tell them, like, that's not any more glorified or amazing.
Speaker A:As someone who actually was loving and, like, loved and protected by their parents and by their family, like, I want that story.
Speaker A:I want that testimony.
Speaker A:I wouldn't have gone through so many things that I went through if I had a family like that when I grew up, you know, and that's the.
Speaker A:What I ideally want my children to have.
Speaker A:I would love my kids to be like, I was raised in a great Christian home.
Speaker A:I know I love the Lord from a young age.
Speaker A:Like, chef's kiss.
Speaker A:That's all I could ask for for my family.
Speaker B:So, yeah, if anyone says otherwise, please.
Speaker A:Give them my number.
Speaker A:I'll Be there for you.
Speaker A:I'll do it.
Speaker B:But what's crazy is my mom was one of five, two and she, the only reason she actually got saved because she was not in a Christian family, was because her parents would send her and her siblings on the church bus.
Speaker B:Like there was a bus that would go around and pick up the neighborhood kids and take and drop them off at the churches outside the church.
Speaker B:Well, her siblings wouldn't go in and she's the only one that went in because she was a good little girl.
Speaker B:Well, she always went in and she's the only one that got saved out of her other four siblings.
Speaker B:And then she passed on her faith, obviously raised us in a Christian home.
Speaker B:But I mean, I can't really speak for my siblings.
Speaker B:I just know that their lives aren't quite on the same.
Speaker B:I don't know, I just, I don't know where their hearts really are.
Speaker B:One is in heaven.
Speaker B:I know that.
Speaker B:And I, I do believe she is in heaven.
Speaker B: That happened: Speaker B:And God gave me vision and peace regarding that.
Speaker B:But you just, you don't know.
Speaker B:But I'm thankful for her.
Speaker B:And I would sit my mom and I would say that you were saying protection I feel when I look back at my life and even my mom's life because, you know, all this stuff is generational.
Speaker B:Like we are so in our own lives, but we're like, there's God has been working and time to him is like a second.
Speaker B:Like, anyways, I'm like, wow, there's been some kind of prayer for my life.
Speaker B:Like, I feel so, so protected.
Speaker B:And I don't know if it was my mom's prayers when she was pregnant, if it was a.
Speaker B:One of my grandmothers I believe was a believer.
Speaker B:And so I don't know whose prayers it was, but I feel like I've been.
Speaker B:Have this hedge of protection over me even in my 20s, making those silly choices that I did.
Speaker B:And whenever I look back, I'm just like, even nowadays there's some things that I go through that I'm like, wow, God, you just protected me.
Speaker B:Like, I just feel your protection.
Speaker B:And I, I, you know, I'm a firm believer that your prayers never die.
Speaker B:And so I, that's why I think I just, I've had people pray for me and I just feel it all the time.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, I mean, I understand that we, when we had started this like pregnancy because we had for miscarriages, I was like, I'm not gonna, I don't.
Speaker A:I got so much black for posting it online at six weeks and telling people to pray, which is so stupid.
Speaker A:And of course it was from non believers that gave me flack, but just because there's obviously a high risk of losing the baby again.
Speaker A:And I was like, you know what?
Speaker A:My last four, I did keep it more secret and more like because you know what people tell you to.
Speaker A:And I was like, I'm not going to risk it.
Speaker A:This child is going to be covered in prayer from here to Naples.
Speaker A:I don't know, like, and it was amazing seeing the encouragement and love, even from strangers on Instagram and Facebook, praying.
Speaker A:I know people who I've never even met who they are still praying for our baby weekly.
Speaker A:It'll get me choked up.
Speaker A:Like our brothers amazing in Christ from all around the world.
Speaker A:Like, we are a part of the church, right?
Speaker A:And the fact that most people don't want to tap into that at all is absolutely mind blowing to me.
Speaker A:Like, I understand, you know, really pouring into your church and asking for help from individuals that you know.
Speaker A:But prayer, if you're a Christian, the power of prayer is the best thing that you can do.
Speaker A:There's a reason why Jesus was so offended right before he was taken to be on the cross when he asked his disciples three separate times to pray for them and they kept falling asleep because it's the number one thing that they could do to love on him.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I love your testimony and everything.
Speaker A:I'm just, I love your life and everything that you do.
Speaker A:Thanks in all of you.
Speaker A:I wanted to ask you too some specific things about being an rn, especially like a holistic rn, because I know even a few of our listeners were excited, like, because holistic RNs are not very common in the US in general.
Speaker A:One people wanted to know if they could work with you, if they're able to work with you one on one if you do that, whether it's online or in person.
Speaker A:And then another thing I wanted to ask you too is I know you already kind of said the difference between being especially a Christian, you know, RN compared to non Christians, but specifically, like when you transferred over into your own practice and what you do on your own, what is like the major difference of being able to look at people even on a spiritual level than what it was like in the hospital.
Speaker A:Because I know that, I know that sometimes even there are laws that you can't share the gospel and things like that, but is there anything like that really stands out to you, being able to do your own practice versus working at a hospital?
Speaker B:Well, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:Because I can care for the whole person and I'm doing it in a.
Speaker B:A coaching format.
Speaker B:So that's why I call myself a holistic wellness coach.
Speaker B:And I have a whole program.
Speaker B:And what's really cool is we go through the blueprint that God gave me.
Speaker B:So it's called the bold blueprint.
Speaker B:And what it is is going through those four holistic wellness actions, but relating them to your exact life.
Speaker B:Because none of us have the same identity or the same purpose or the same life people in it, all of that we're also unique.
Speaker B:And so what I do is take this blueprint, so this example of what I was given and say, so for example, one of the things for me was move your body 30 minutes a day.
Speaker B:And so to me, that was what I could handle at that time in that postpartum time.
Speaker B:Well, now it's, it's developed.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like I not only move my body 30 minutes a day, but I also have other healthy holistic habits that I've built in.
Speaker B:So we will take a look for a couple weeks in the program and we look at your holistic body and everything that's going on in your body systems and how you can care for your body best with the time that you've been given with taking every other wellness area into consideration.
Speaker B:And so we go through the four, which is time with God, time with your body, time with others, and time with your family.
Speaker B:So for me, it was my spouse.
Speaker B:It was spend date night once a week with your husband.
Speaker B:Well, not everyone's married and not everyone even if they might be divorced or, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:So we incorporate whatever your family looks like, your family unit, your support system, how to have that communication, because communication and support is huge.
Speaker B:Community.
Speaker B:So how to work on those relationships.
Speaker B:And then from there, the time with others is really focused on how you're using your ministry and your gifts and your purpose and your calling and what that looks like in your specific life.
Speaker B:So that's my program and that's how you can work with me as a holistic wellness nurse.
Speaker B:Because I'm going to care for your all what I believe eight wellness areas.
Speaker B:I'm going to care for all of them and individually to you.
Speaker B:So it's a group coaching program because I believe community is like what you really need for that accountability piece.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:If you're going to stay consistent in anything, you're going to really do the work.
Speaker B:You need that accountability.
Speaker B:And what's better than just one coach is you're also going to have community Members, other students going through it with you.
Speaker B:So to build those and even as a female, like we need that.
Speaker B:So it's a group coaching program.
Speaker B:I mean you, you can work with me one on one, but that is an option.
Speaker B:But I don't, I.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It's available.
Speaker B:It's just I think the group community program is the best.
Speaker B:And yeah, so we actually have one on one coaching in the program.
Speaker B:This program is so packed full of value because I want to just as a nurse I want to give myself so much, but I'm taking care of myself, don't worry.
Speaker B:But I do have, I have one on one coaching sessions throughout the program.
Speaker B:You have voxer access to me in the program.
Speaker B:We have group coaching calls.
Speaker B:There's a 12 week course modules that you go through.
Speaker B:And yeah, that's.
Speaker B:And obviously being someone of faith, it is a faith based program.
Speaker B:So you're going to have that throughout the whole thing being that we're spiritual beings in physical form.
Speaker B:So that's really what we, it comes down to.
Speaker B:So if you're someone who wants that kind of holistic wellness program and coaching because we see coaches for a lot of things, but if you really want to focus on your spiritual life at the core of all of it, that's what this program will do.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:So if, if I were coming in, let's just say like, especially like as a new mom, you know, would things be tailored like even though there's a group coaching aspect, like would I be able to in different sessions be able to ask like hey, like you know, I did some blood work and I've noticed that my vitamin B and D is super low consistently and no matter what I take, I just always feel exhausted and all that.
Speaker A:Like could I also ask health based questions as well or is it more just on the spiritual side and then relating that to the body?
Speaker B:Yes, absolutely it is.
Speaker B:Those questions would be allowed and definitely even in the group setting because you may have someone else and then I could be the, you know, the expert in the, in the setting to say, well you might want to look into this but someone can get their own experience and then, and work with you and about that.
Speaker B:But we also have expert in an expert in each area.
Speaker B:So for the, for the time with your body part we have a holistic health expert for so you can get labs and check out your hormones and do all that stuff.
Speaker B:And then at the like the time with God part we even have a, A someone who does inner healing and deliverance.
Speaker B:So if you are Saying, well, Shan, this was amazing.
Speaker B:And I've uncovered some heart wounds and some things that I really need to work through.
Speaker B:And I would love to go and have a session on Deliverance.
Speaker B:I have an expert there that also you can be connected to and walk through that with her.
Speaker B:And then we even have a trauma expert.
Speaker B:So say you're working through something and then you discover, oh, wow, I have all this trauma I need healing from.
Speaker B:We have a trauma expert.
Speaker B:So there's other experts throughout the program, not just me, too, that I am connected to and affiliated with that you.
Speaker B:That I.
Speaker B:That I recommend that you can go see.
Speaker A:So just a question, too, because we also have a lot of non Christian listeners who.
Speaker A:How would you explain the difference between deliverance and trauma?
Speaker A:Because I feel like a lot of Christians also tend to mix and match the two.
Speaker A:I don't know if you have any examples that you're able to share or if you just have general explanations, but I think you would give a great definition of them.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, I think we all experience a degree of trauma in our life just because life is traumatic.
Speaker B:I think it's kind of on a continuum.
Speaker B:Like, you're gonna have these big traumas that we think of, like a death or even like a car accident or abuse of some sort.
Speaker B:You're gonna have big traumas.
Speaker B:You're also gonna have other traumas, like a divorce or, you know, just a.
Speaker B:A verbal, you know, situation with a parent that really just formed a wound in your heart.
Speaker B:Like, there's going to be variety of degrees of trauma.
Speaker B:And I think that we all have something to be delivered from.
Speaker B:I think we experience the spiritual world as we're living in it.
Speaker B:And so there is evils and there is good, and they're at warfare.
Speaker B:And so we are affected by the enemy all the time.
Speaker B:And there's things that we're not even aware of that are, like I was saying, generational, that are in.
Speaker B:In and through our world that are affecting us or that affected us as.
Speaker B:As children that are still, like, tied to us.
Speaker B:There's, like, things like soul ties.
Speaker B:There's all sorts of things that we can be delivered from.
Speaker B:For me, I was one.
Speaker B:When I first was introduced to this, I was really questioning, why do Christians have to be delivered?
Speaker B:Like, I've already, like, been saved, right?
Speaker B:And I was explained, actually, through a book.
Speaker B:It's an amazing book called Prayers that Heal the Heart.
Speaker B:But it was explained to me that we are in a sinful world.
Speaker B:We're in a broken world, and sin is what separates us from God.
Speaker B:And so we have these, this inner struggle of our flesh and the spirit all the time.
Speaker B:And when we can actually die to sin and live in the spirit, that takes a part of sometimes removing these spirits from us, these evil spirits.
Speaker B:So it is not that you're not saved, it's just that there are things that have happened to you before salvation and even during that have affected you that you didn't allow or there's just a spiritual world.
Speaker B:And for me, I experienced a lot of financial trauma in my life that I was not in control of.
Speaker B:It wasn't my doing.
Speaker B:And I need to be delivered from the, even the, the inner vows and the mindset and the connection to that.
Speaker B:And it's just a process of praying.
Speaker B:So it sounds scary and it's not like it's just praying specifically the, the spirit, the, the enemy's world is all legal, legalistic.
Speaker B:And so when you pray by the blood of Jesus, which they.
Speaker B:Any name of Jesus they cannot be around, they don't agree with.
Speaker B:So if you pray the name of Jesus and by the blood of Jesus, they have to go and listen to it, otherwise they have freedom to attack in all sorts of ways.
Speaker B:So yeah, it was.
Speaker B:It's just a simple process of praying, but praying in a way that they have to obey and flee.
Speaker B:And then, you know, you experience this freedom and you know, get filled up with the Holy Spirit and all of that.
Speaker B:So does that answer?
Speaker A:Well, yeah, coming from a demonic background.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:From what I was raised in, the legalistic part is a great way of explaining.
Speaker A:Explaining it because the enemy is very into contracts.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Which is a good way.
Speaker A:Another, I guess, way of saying it where, you know, like even when Jeremiah, when we first moved into our home, we made it very clear like this is our home.
Speaker A:Nothing that is not of God is allowed to come past this threshold.
Speaker A:And like just stating that is a verbal contract between us and the Lord and the enemy can't override that.
Speaker A:So same thing with my office that I'm in right now.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That's my door behind me.
Speaker A:Because obviously I get a lot of non believers that come in here and whatever is with them or attached to them or even, you know, oppressing a believer is not allowed to come in here.
Speaker A:It's a contract that I've created and it's not something that I have to repeat day in and day out all the time.
Speaker A:When the contract is set, it's set.
Speaker A:But you can then erase your contract by undoing it.
Speaker A:So there it's Interesting because coming from my background, I definitely understand, but I know that there are also Christians that have just never even heard of these types of things.
Speaker A:And yeah, hear the word deliverance too.
Speaker A:It gets kind of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what does that mean?
Speaker A:And you know, I, I understand that there are different also faith aspects within Christianity, but especially for a non believer who would be listening.
Speaker A:I wanted them to understand that trauma isn't always something.
Speaker A:Like again, I use Job as an example a lot but like God purposely allowed things to happen to him to be used as an example.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So that also can be aspects of our life as well.
Speaker A:And when we truly pray and submit to why things are happening, even healthcare wise, then we're able to check in in a different way and be like, oh this, you know, yeah, this really isn't about me right now.
Speaker A:Or you know what, like this is actually something that I've created that's been self inflicting or yeah, I inherited this genetic DNA split because of my grandparents eating and doing things that are poorly that were then passed on to my mom, that was then passed on to me.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Which amazingly we actually can fix even our DNA within the next four generations.
Speaker A:So God in the way that he's allowed us to be able to heal ourselves and even heal generations past that, even outside of a spiritual aspect and into a physical one.
Speaker A:So yeah, yeah, thank you for explaining that because I was like, oh, she said some key words that I feel like some people would be like, what?
Speaker B:Well I also will say this world is so infused with witchcraft that we are oblivious to some of the things and we open our door, spiritual speaking and physically we open our door to allowing these things in and then we experience, we experience some kind of stress in our life, like whether it's a physical illness or mental illness or something.
Speaker B:And we experience this and we want to run, to run to a solution.
Speaker B:But sometimes it is that we've opened our door to this, to this witchcraft.
Speaker B:Like I'm a strong believer in like how media is like attacking us in this way and we have to guard our heart and our eyes and our ears.
Speaker B:And when we don't do that, we're allowing it to come to us and infiltrate our life.
Speaker B:And we don't, we don't realize, but we can't just say, well I didn't know and turn an ignorant eye to it.
Speaker B:We have to actually be aware.
Speaker B:We have to be aware we're fighting a spiritual war.
Speaker B:Well, Paul tells us that in the Bible we are in a spiritual war.
Speaker B:And so we can't turn a blind eye to it.
Speaker B:We have to be vigilant of fleeing from evil and so then it won't attack us.
Speaker B:But if we are saying if we're running towards evil, then it's going to affect our whole life.
Speaker B:It's going to affect our health.
Speaker B:It's going.
Speaker B:We're going to have health issues that are really derived from witchcraft.
Speaker B:It's going to affect our mental state.
Speaker B:This anxiety, this depression.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:Well, what are you listening to?
Speaker B:What are you looking at?
Speaker B:What are you hearing?
Speaker B:What's surrounding you, what's in your environment?
Speaker B:If it's all.
Speaker B:If there's a lot of evil, then you're going to be having these mental.
Speaker B:This mental distress as well.
Speaker A:So Jeremiah and I, we've even had a few instances in our marriage where we.
Speaker A:It was actually kind of amazing.
Speaker A:I had.
Speaker A:I told him, I was like, I have this horrible back neck pain and I can't figure out.
Speaker A:And I told him, I was like, it feels like somebody is grabbing my spine like this and squeezing it.
Speaker A:And we were also fighting a lot at that time.
Speaker A:It was after our third miscarriage.
Speaker A:Like, there was just a lot of dysfunction in our marriage.
Speaker A:And we weren't running to the Lord, we were running to ourselves, basically.
Speaker A:And you know what's crazy?
Speaker A:He was actually working as a handyman for a different church, like just helping out.
Speaker A:And the pastor's wife, who's never met me, never been to our home, never anything, she came up to him and said, jeremiah, I had a dream last night that a woman was speaking to you on a couch with gray couches, which is what we have.
Speaker A:And she was like, we were just in a small room and I literally saw a demonic entity grabbing her spine.
Speaker A:She said the exact thing that I explained to him and.
Speaker A:And she was like, I just have been praying for her all day and I don't know who she is, but you know her really well.
Speaker A:And after that it was crazy because we started praying specifically for whatever it was to go away and leave me al.
Speaker A:And my back and neck pain went away.
Speaker B:See, that's deliverance that you delivered yourself.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because you got a prophetic word from someone else and, well, word of knowledge from someone else who's also a believer, who's also praying.
Speaker A:He confirmed it for sure.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And then you were able to say, okay, that's what it is.
Speaker B:Let me pray.
Speaker B:And you had deliverance.
Speaker B:So that's as simple as it is, but also how powerful it is.
Speaker A: you physically, but it did it: Speaker A:Did I hear neck and back pain and I was like, I'm a Christian.
Speaker A:How can this be happening?
Speaker A:I'm covered by the blood of Jesus.
Speaker A:I don't understand, but at that time, was I in the Word a lot?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Was I doing the things that I should have been doing to spend time with the Lord?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Was I also respecting my husband?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:I was doing all the things.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Any type of doorway for the enemy to do whatever they wanted.
Speaker A:And also coming from a demonic background, I'll be 100% honest.
Speaker A:Christians think that because that we're, you know, covered in the blood of Jesus, like I did to myself, that we're just always 100% safe.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Stick out like a sore thumb.
Speaker A:We are beams of light compared to everybody else.
Speaker A:We are easy targets that they can easily.
Speaker A:The moment it starts getting dim.
Speaker A:There are little ways to oppress.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker A:Love that you're.
Speaker A:I love that your company does that and actually addresses those things.
Speaker A:And I'm sure you guys take it too, at the level that people will be able to take and understand and feel comfortable with.
Speaker A:But I, yeah, I love that you truly do.
Speaker A:Holyistic health.
Speaker A:Like holy.
Speaker B:Holyistic.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's to me is because I can.
Speaker A:I sometimes can with people, but because it's not just Christian based.
Speaker A:I work with people who are non Christian.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I love that.
Speaker A:That's the base of everything for you.
Speaker A:You're like, yeah, whether you're saved or not, if you're working with me, this is what we're going to talk about.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker A:I know I could talk to you for hours and there's no way I would be able to.
Speaker A:I would just post you on our podcast all day.
Speaker B:But you're so funny.
Speaker A:But I'm super thankful for you talking to me today.
Speaker A:And also, I just wasn't also where I was going through with questions, but it ended up getting here, which I love.
Speaker A:So it'd be fun to have you on again because I have a few other things that I'd love to talk about in depth with you, but I also want the audience to want more and also go check out your podcast because you guys talk about lots of different things, like tons of different things.
Speaker A:And it doesn't.
Speaker A:Even though it's for holistic moms, you guys talk about the family and things outside of like being a mother often.
Speaker A:I've noticed.
Speaker A:So I And I wanted to ask you before we went today, like, if there's any recent people or episodes that really touched your heart that just kind of, it helped you immensely, I guess, in your walk that you've done in your podcast.
Speaker B:Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker B:So I've not aired this one yet, but probably by the time, by the time this comes out, it will be aired.
Speaker B:Is.
Speaker B:I actually had my second mail.
Speaker B:I had a first mail at the start of the year about business.
Speaker B:This one, I actually heard this guy at a business networking event.
Speaker B:He's like the ambassador for this alliance and just love him.
Speaker B:It's a non Christian, like just a business networking for our city, our town.
Speaker B:And he, he, I just knew he was a man of faith, but he gets up and he's like, so there's this group of people and they lived in Israel and they were in the desert.
Speaker B:And he just tells the story of the Israelites.
Speaker B:And like he's just telling a story.
Speaker B:And so then I was like, oh, he's, he's really pulling out these, this wisdom that anyone can use.
Speaker B:This business person next to me, this Joe Schmo who doesn't even know God, he can use it because the way he's saying it.
Speaker B:Anyway, I was like, fred, please come on my podcast.
Speaker B:And he did.
Speaker B:And so he's now what I'm calling the pastor of the pod.
Speaker B:I'm going to have him on again.
Speaker B:But when he came on, he came on and I was like just, he is just preaching and I was like loving every second of it.
Speaker B:So that was really a strong confirmation for me for my, my bolt blueprint coaching program.
Speaker B:Because I was talking about, I'm talking about being burnt out and stressed out and how to manage your stress in a holistic well way.
Speaker B:And he's talking about being in the wilderness and getting to the promised land.
Speaker B:And I'm like, that's the same thing.
Speaker B:And so it was confirmation for me of, you know, you don't have to stay where you are in your stressed out survival mode.
Speaker B:You have to turn, take action and go to the promised land because God already said it's yours, it's already there.
Speaker B:You have a better life for you.
Speaker B:There's abundance, there's peace, there's everything.
Speaker B:If you decide, you get to choose.
Speaker B:We have free will.
Speaker B:You get to choose what you're going to do with your life and you have to take action.
Speaker B:And he gave this little leadership lesson is what he calls it.
Speaker B:And I was like, okay, share this.
Speaker B:And he shared it and then we even expanded on it on the podcast, and I was like, this.
Speaker B:That's why I haven't aired it yet, because I'm going to air it.
Speaker B:I'm doing a sale for my program in a couple weeks for my birthday, and so I'm going to air it to really encourage people.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:To take.
Speaker B:Encourage people to take action and then take advantage of the sale, because this is what this program is going to do, is to help you live this life that you dreamt of, because you're going to be taking the action that God tells you to do to lead you into the promised land that we all want.
Speaker B:So I'll.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's the one that I'll.
Speaker B:That I was really impacted by lately.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm excited to listen to it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Are you on every single podcasting network?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:So it'll be easy for people to find you, too.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Are you on YouTube as well?
Speaker B:I do have my podcast on YouTube.
Speaker B:It's just audio, but it is on YouTube.
Speaker B:So same.
Speaker A:Except for, like, this.
Speaker A:Then people can kind of watch it and then get a sneak preview of being like, well, Savannah, you look different since you've been pregnant.
Speaker A:And I'm like, I know.
Speaker A:Welcome to the new me.
Speaker B:It's crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:My body is changing so much, but I'm so thankful that today has been, like, the biggest blessing, because I.
Speaker A:I was really excited to ask you, like, very specific questions.
Speaker A:And, of course, God humbles me every time whenever another believer comes on, I was like, this is what someone else needs to hear.
Speaker A:And I'm like, okay, well.
Speaker A:And then I realized that I can always go over them another episode with you, which would be really fun, but.
Speaker B:I know it will be.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, I'll be praying for your business.
Speaker A:I'm really excited for it to keep growing and also just continuously hear your podcast and the amazing humility that you have in it.
Speaker A:It's so fun listening to you.
Speaker A:My husband and I loved listening to you on our way out to Utah, visiting family and coming back, so.
Speaker A:And it just was so refreshing.
Speaker A:I was like, I'm a crazy family, and listening to this solid woman in the Lord just made me feel so much better.
Speaker B:Oh, that is so sweet.
Speaker B:I will say there are some things that, yes, it's called holistic moms, but like you said, there are some things for every person.
Speaker B:Especially, I will highlight my breath prayer episodes.
Speaker B:I have about five, I think, at this point, four or five.
Speaker B:But I try to do them every, like, so many episodes.
Speaker B:And it's just simply a breath prayer and they literally.
Speaker B:It could be for a man, it could be for a teenager.
Speaker B:It's learning how to deep breathe, which is a holistic exercise to calm your body internally, but then also pray at the same time to calm your heart.
Speaker B:So it is one of my favorite tools for anxiety and stress.
Speaker B:But also it's putting it on helps you do it.
Speaker B:And so you do it with me.
Speaker B:And it's like, you know, three to five minutes of deep breathing and praying, which is.
Speaker B:Yeah, like I said, for everyone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's kind of like my body mapping episodes where I teach people how to check in and do specific things with your body.
Speaker A:Whether it's looking at your eyes, mouth, feet, hands.
Speaker B:I haven't listened to those yet.
Speaker B:I need to do that.
Speaker A:They're fun.
Speaker A:We have.
Speaker A:I don't even know how many body mapping episodes we have out now, but the poop and the P1 which people die laughing that I didn't put like urine and fecal matter.
Speaker A:But those and the acne are probably the top three that are re listened to and used all the time by people.
Speaker B:So I can't wait.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, I'm so thankful that you are one a sister in Christ and to just have been able to be a part of this episode and like I said earlier, sharing your testimony, your faith and holistic wellness with the world because again, we need more providers like you out there.
Speaker A:And I'm just so excited to have my listeners check in and also follow your podcast and just also for even our friendship to grow.
Speaker A:I'm just so thankful and honored that you even had me on your show.
Speaker A:So, yes, so thankful.
Speaker A:Thank you for being on my show today.
Speaker B:Thank you so much.
Speaker B:I love being here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And again, if you need anything else more holistic wise or have questions, I'm always here for you.
Speaker A:But thank you guys for listening.
Speaker A:And as always, we are both, Shane and I praying for all the listeners today that if there was anything specific that really touched your heart, there are different ways that you can can reach out to both of us.
Speaker A:I'm sure through your website too, right, Shan, that people can reach out to you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So just www.theshanright.com and we can put that on the show notes too.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:And on Instagram too.
Speaker B:Correct is at the Shan, right?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:But thank you so much you guys.
Speaker A:And as always, keep casting seeds.
Speaker A:We hope you enjoyed learning how to cultivate God's creation.
Speaker A:Creation from a biblical perspective.
Speaker A:Holistic health is to prioritize whole person wellness through Christ like and comment on what topics we're casting seeds or casting pearls.
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Speaker B:We would like to remind you before we leave that perfect health cannot be attained in this world world.
Speaker A:Only spiritual salvation through sanctification and repentance to God and turning away from sin will give you a perfect body in the kingdom come.
Speaker B:Nourish yourself in the Word, in prayer.
Speaker A:And in Biblical fellowship daily.
Speaker B:Thank you for joining us today and a special thank you to our listeners for making this podcast possible.
Speaker A:Always praying.
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