Episode 55
Holistic 103 Questions
This episode elucidates the profound benefits of individualized discernment in holistic health, a principle we advocate through the lens of divine guidance. As we navigate the journey of pregnancy, both Jeremiah and I share significant insights gleaned from our experiences and practices in holistic health that have been instrumental in our lives, both as individuals and as a couple. The discourse emphasizes the importance of practical wisdom and community support, highlighting how these elements foster a deeper understanding of health and well-being. Additionally, we delve into the necessity of maintaining steadfastness in our beliefs amid external pressures, particularly in healthcare decision-making. Ultimately, our conversation seeks to empower listeners to cultivate their own paths in holistic health while upholding their faith.
Takeaways:
- The significance of individualized discernment in holistic health is paramount, as it allows individuals to tailor their approaches based on unique circumstances and needs.
- Throughout the holistic health journey, it is crucial to integrate practical wisdom and knowledge, particularly as it pertains to the application of herbs and natural remedies in daily life.
- Building a supportive community is essential in one's holistic health journey, as it fosters accountability and encouragement during challenging times.
- Effective communication and biblical leadership within relationships can significantly enhance one's ability to navigate health-related decisions and challenges.
- The act of preparing one's own medicinal remedies, such as tinctures and syrups, can lead to a deeper understanding and appreciation of the healing properties of herbs and their applications.
- Maintaining a focus on emotional management and time management is vital, particularly in the context of holistic health, as it directly impacts overall well-being and effectiveness in daily practices.
Transcript
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Speaker A:Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Casting Seeds.
Speaker A:I'm Savannah, your holistic health practitioner and host.
Speaker B:And I'm Jeremiah, your co host.
Speaker A:And you're listening to the only holistic health podcast that uses God's singular truth to give you individualized discernment.
Speaker A:I sound a lot better this week.
Speaker A:I don't know if you guys noticed.
Speaker A:I used to be very out of breath, very exhausted, coming into almost 13 weeks now of pregnancy.
Speaker A:The first trimester is over, and I'm not dying anymore.
Speaker B:She has her energy, and I'm stoked for it.
Speaker A:Jeremiah.
Speaker A:I told everyone that I was basically a baby.
Speaker A:I was practice for him taking care of a baby.
Speaker A:I ate, drank, pooped, and slept and worked.
Speaker A:That's basically it.
Speaker A:But it did nothing around the house.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyway, today's episode, I'm.
Speaker A:We're really excited because we haven't done a Holy A stick episode in a while.
Speaker A:We have Holyistic 101, Holyistic 102, and today is a.
Speaker A:Do we have a button that does that?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Have I asked for one of those before?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I don't believe you.
Speaker A:A holistic 103.
Speaker A:Is there a cheering sound?
Speaker B:Don't start pressing buttons, please.
Speaker A:Okay, let's just try one.
Speaker B:That's the volume.
Speaker B:You have to turn the volume up on it.
Speaker A:Okay, I give up then.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:That's how Jeremiah got me.
Speaker A:You just turned the volume down so I wouldn't try anymore.
Speaker A:So today for the Holyistic 103 episode, Jeremiah and I wanted to share, both of us, the top two things that we've learned having in holistic health that has benefited both.
Speaker A:Both us the most individually and as a couple.
Speaker A:And maybe we can throw in, like, something that we want to do more of in the future or learn more.
Speaker A:But we thought that this would be important because, you know, everyone's answers are going to be very individualized, especially with where you guys are starting.
Speaker A:And we've kind of already gone over that in holistic 101 and 102.
Speaker A:And also there's like a where do I start?
Speaker A:Episode.
Speaker A:So because you guys have been following along for so long, we wanted to just kind of give an update on things that actually really have helped us and affected us, even just this past year, because you guys have gone along through so much with us in our healing journey, and then now us being pregnant and so far along, which is amazing.
Speaker A:Also, thank you guys for your prayers on this and also for Jeremiah's work that's coming up.
Speaker A:We can't wait to share more Info on that as well.
Speaker A:And next week, we promise that the tech episode.
Speaker B:Yeah, we'll be doing the tech episode.
Speaker A:Yeah, we'll be coming out.
Speaker A:Because I know quite a few of you have been messaging me in high anticipation for that.
Speaker A:But let's get started.
Speaker A:I'm gonna have Jeremiah answer the first question.
Speaker A:So, love, what is the first thing that came to your mind when you think of holistic health?
Speaker A:That has really helped you individually and me, but you grow as an individual, especially with Christ.
Speaker B:I would say the number one thing was actually meeting you.
Speaker B:And why I say that is because I was able to build more head knowledge and you were able to build our apothecary and teach me how to do my own muscle releases.
Speaker B:So being able to work on myself and being able to help you when you need help and help myself when I need help, whether it's a stomach ailment or something like that, just knowing what's in our apothecary and what I need to do to access, like, prepare you or me and get us healthy again.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, thank you for giving me that credit, but I have to give credit where credit's due.
Speaker A:It sounds more like not to.
Speaker A:I'm not trying to correct your answer or change it.
Speaker B:She always corrects me.
Speaker A:No, it just.
Speaker A:It sounds more like learning and having, like, practical wisdom was kind of.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Is that true?
Speaker A:Yeah, what you're saying.
Speaker B:Learning and practical wisdom.
Speaker B:But you were the catalyst for that.
Speaker A:When I met him, he actually was making his own beard oils.
Speaker B:And literally, I need some stuff.
Speaker A:He was pulling oil from avocado fruits.
Speaker A:So he was already kind of advanced.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I guess I did help Jeremiah kind of take, like, God's wisdom through creation and make it into applicable knowledge with, like, different fruits and vegetables, different herbs and what they do.
Speaker A:But honestly, it was just us using them all the time.
Speaker A:Like, you just kind of have to bite the bullet and buy the herbs and things that you're interested in and start using them.
Speaker A:Because if you don't use it in your everyday life, you're not going to understand it more and then you're not going to use it in the future.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker B:If it's not accessible to you, then you will not use it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And ours is out.
Speaker A:Like, our apothecary cabinet is in between our kitchen and.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's on the way to get your water.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So in between our kitchen.
Speaker B:Stop and feel better.
Speaker A:Well, that's the thing, too.
Speaker A:We've noticed that some of the dried herbs that we haven't prepared, we don't use them as often because then they're only prepared for tea or tinctures.
Speaker A:Mm.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's like you have to be on top of it and still make it, but when you're feeling good, it's not something that you need all the time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But like we just ran out of our big batch of fire cider.
Speaker A:And even though we have a few bottles left of our fire cider, now is the time, because spring is starting to come in California, that we'll be harvesting those same herbs that are now pregnancy and breastfeeding safe again like we prepared for last year so that we can have a huge batch that will last us a year and a half.
Speaker A:If we didn't give any of it away or sell any of it, we'd have so much still.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So much.
Speaker A:We'd have buckets.
Speaker B:We probably, between you and I, probably drink, I don't know, 9 ounces out of a.
Speaker B:I think that's a 2 gallon, 1.5 gallon container.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:If we didn't also same with like our first batch we ever made, we could have had one that's over four years old still.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Um.
Speaker A:But yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker A:Like we, we love making it.
Speaker A:We love sharing that knowledge.
Speaker A:And it's interesting because Jeremiah and I, every time we make a batch of fire cider, we actually learn more about the different plants that we use and what's considered safer or what even just sounds good for that year.
Speaker A:And each year they taste different.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is kind of cool.
Speaker A:But yeah, I would say.
Speaker A:I mean, even now you mentioned alignment work.
Speaker A:Jeremiah has been really good with also the practical knowledge of.
Speaker A:Like when I showed him how to do self releases on his body, I want to add, like his body awareness became much higher.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Where he could communicate what was wrong with his body.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And when I needed help, I'd come to you.
Speaker B:But if I was able to really release myself, I knew how to do it and how to hold and everything.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Breathe.
Speaker A:Especially at the gym and stuff.
Speaker A:If he gets a lockup and I'm not there, it's nice to know that my husband is self sufficient in that way.
Speaker B:That's why I would do so good.
Speaker B:Good on alone.
Speaker A:We've been watching a lot of survivor show, like survival shows lately, and we've been talking about how Jeremiah would do really well.
Speaker A:I would not.
Speaker A:Not at all.
Speaker A:He had to cut meat.
Speaker B:She would eat all the organs.
Speaker B:She would do so well.
Speaker B:But that's the thing is, is she's got the organs.
Speaker A:First I got to catch the animal.
Speaker B:She'S got to kill it and then gut it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I wouldn't know how to do any of that.
Speaker A:He just taught me when we were dating how to get a fish.
Speaker B:You're talented though.
Speaker B:You, you eat all the right herbs.
Speaker A:Yeah, I could do that.
Speaker A:We could be a good team.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, they have like different survival shows too.
Speaker B:Depends on which one you wanted to be on.
Speaker A:None.
Speaker A:None of them, to be honest.
Speaker A:Um, but yeah, that's a really good point.
Speaker A:I would say.
Speaker A:Your point, even though you, you gave me the credit, I gotta give credit where credit's due.
Speaker A:And it's you actually learning the practical knowledge.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That was needed.
Speaker B:Build that passion for it.
Speaker B:And then also it's just a sense of duty as a husband and father.
Speaker B:I just wanted to learn because that's how I could love on you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's also your passion.
Speaker B:So I really enjoyed your passion.
Speaker A:But you did like it before we were even together, which did help.
Speaker A:And we do also, you guys, on other episodes people have asked like, hey, I'm really interested in this or I love it.
Speaker A:My husband think it's weird.
Speaker A:My husband thinks it's weird.
Speaker A:Or woohoo.
Speaker A:Jeremiah has answered those questions before.
Speaker A:So don't hesitate to go to our Q A episodes to kind of scan through.
Speaker A:He's answered it actually twice in different ways.
Speaker A:So yeah, highly recommend going back to those episodes.
Speaker B:So how about you?
Speaker B:What's one of yours?
Speaker A:Actually mine's kind of similar to your first one.
Speaker A:Yours is about knowledge and learning and understanding herbs.
Speaker A:Mine was about making them.
Speaker A:So I noticed a significant difference between like you and I.
Speaker A:I mean, I do think some tinctures that we buy at the store because, you know, some herbs are expensive or like we don't have the room to have them in bulk because that's the only price wise.
Speaker A:It's the only way that makes sense, buying herbs in bulk.
Speaker A:Um, so if we couldn't store it or it was kind of a pricey herb, we didn't want to pay for it.
Speaker A:Getting tinctures was nice.
Speaker A:But I do notice that when you and I make our own medicine or pick it from our own backyard or get it locally in any way, it is so much stronger and so much, I don't know, it's just, it's different, it's better, it's been better.
Speaker A:So mine's kind of a short and sweet answer for I guess my first one, but it's Been proven scientifically also.
Speaker A:I mean, if you guys want to look into it, even with the frequency episode, that if you make your own herbs and medicine and even grow your own medicine and fruit and vegetables and.
Speaker B:Food and pray over it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That actually the molecules change kind of like the same way that a breast milk changes.
Speaker A:Mother's breast milk changes for a baby and its needs.
Speaker A:Food does that for you.
Speaker A:And actually prayer does that as well.
Speaker A:It sounds crazy, but it actually happens.
Speaker A:Like, it's insane.
Speaker A:Uh, my herbalist teacher actually did an experiment with us.
Speaker A:I think I may have shared this before on this podcast, but we all got two cups of chamomile flour, and.
Speaker A:Yeah, and she made it.
Speaker A:She put the chamomile flour in, like, the 15 different vials.
Speaker A:She poured the alcohol into all of them, and she sealed them all so they are completely neutral.
Speaker A:She did it.
Speaker A:All we did as budding herbalists is grab a jar, take it home, and we didn't even open it, but we shook all of them every single day.
Speaker A:Just shook them and had them in sunlight.
Speaker A:And I prayed over mine, but it was so weird because two weeks later, when they turned into tinctures, we brought them back and strained them.
Speaker A:Every single person's tasted different, and everyone's favorite one was the one that they shook and tasted.
Speaker A:And she even did a blind test, like, she labeled them, and we all picked our own.
Speaker A:Some people, like, pick.
Speaker A:They were like, I like this one a little bit more.
Speaker A:But, like, I mean, 80% of people picked their own.
Speaker B:Crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, it's because the medicine changed for your DNA and biological needs, and that was through glass.
Speaker A:So imagine what it's like when you actually touch your own medicine and grow it, and your own actual DNA falls into the plant.
Speaker B:So, so you're saying, like, if I did it myself, I just prayed over it, it just tastes more sweet, Tastes like sugar.
Speaker A:Not necessarily, but it would.
Speaker B:Never mind.
Speaker A:Then it would taste like it.
Speaker A:It would feel better to take.
Speaker B:Gotcha.
Speaker A:But that's honestly why when you make your own medicine for your family, it is so much stronger.
Speaker B:Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker A:That's why I always say, like, if you can, don't outsource.
Speaker A:Like making fire cider, making elderberry syrup.
Speaker A:It is so easy.
Speaker A:And when.
Speaker A:Especially when you get your kids involved in on the action, they get so excited and they actually want to take medicine.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And yeah, some things are harder to get used to.
Speaker A:It took us a while to get used to fire cider, and we still don't love it when we have to take it.
Speaker A:But we also understand the practical use for it.
Speaker A:And also being comfortable is not in the Christian walk, but especially when it comes to herbs and medicine.
Speaker A:Bitter things, sour things, vinegary based things.
Speaker A:They're all healthy for your gut, whether you like it or not.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I would say my first pick is making your food from home, growing your food, making medicine as much as you can.
Speaker A:I understand it's not practical for everybody, but I don't think there's any excuse even for something as simple as elderberry syrup.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:I like it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What's your.
Speaker A:Oh, sorry.
Speaker B:No, I was gonna say, I think my second one.
Speaker A:Oh, that's what I was gonna ask.
Speaker A:I know, same page.
Speaker B:It's almost like we're married.
Speaker B:My second one, I think, kind of follows up with my first one a little bit, but it leads into biblical confidence in.
Speaker B:In the knowledge that I've learned in and not being able to be shaken by outside voices and what I mean by people who share their wisdom or their advice and stuff.
Speaker B:And biblically, we're called to not be shaken out of our faith and be steadfast with the Lord.
Speaker B:And I think that falls under the same.
Speaker B:The same category with our health and everything.
Speaker B:So, for example, like when we were at the hospital the other day and.
Speaker A:Not the hospital, the ob.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It was our last OB appointment and.
Speaker B:She was making suggestions and I was like, nope, we don't.
Speaker B:You want to tell them we don't want to do the DNA testing?
Speaker B:It's not a problem for us.
Speaker A:But do you want to tell them specifically what the suggestion was that was kind of upsetting?
Speaker B:Oh, they wanted do DNA testing to see if we want to keep the baby.
Speaker B:And I just didn't want any of that fear based.
Speaker A:Like, she wanted us to make plans.
Speaker B:To prepare to kill the baby.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I was like, that's insane.
Speaker A:In case there was anything we didn't like biologically with the baby.
Speaker A:She didn't even say health wise.
Speaker A:She said, if there are things you don't like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:By the way, we're trying not.
Speaker A:We're trying to get a midwife.
Speaker A:We're not sticking with the obvious, but yeah, this is who we've had.
Speaker B:I mean, if push comes to shove, we're having the baby together.
Speaker B:I don't need a barn.
Speaker B:I'll do it the same way Jesus was born with the dogs in the background.
Speaker A:I'd prefer not to give birth in a cold.
Speaker B:I can build you a manger.
Speaker A:Anyway, it started off really solid.
Speaker A:No, but Jeremiah Did a really good job at stepping up because I felt really uncomfortable, especially emotionally and everything when you're seeing your baby on a screen.
Speaker A:And my mom was there and I wanted things to be joyful.
Speaker A:I got kind of choked up and just taken back.
Speaker A:I didn't even know what to say when she said that.
Speaker A:And she specifically asked, are you Jehovah's Witness or are you Jewish?
Speaker A:And we were like, no.
Speaker B:Oh, that was for my DNA.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:But she was asking for religious purposes the second time.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:And then we were like, oh, no.
Speaker A:And then she's like, okay, so then if we look at DNA, I just want to double check because you guys said no the first time.
Speaker A:If we look at DNA again, I just want to double check that, you know, you.
Speaker A:You don't want to terminate if anything's bad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They wanted to check my Jewish heritage.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:DNA side of it.
Speaker A:Because Jeremiah has Israeli background.
Speaker A:And so then she went over all the diseases that were possible because of the concentration camps that Jews went through.
Speaker A:And we just kind of looked at each other and we were like, okay, yeah, whatever.
Speaker B:Whatever the Lord provides.
Speaker A:Yeah, whatever our baby has is what God wanted.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And Jeremiah did such a good job at stepping up and being my healthcare advocate and the baby's healthcare advocate when he saw me struggling in that moment.
Speaker A:So I.
Speaker A:Because a part of me wanted to like, deck her in the face for.
Speaker A:For asking a question, but I also was just in so much shock that she even asked something like that and made it clear that we had the option to terminate if wanted or needed.
Speaker A:It was mostly if wanted.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because there's no need to ever terminate.
Speaker A:And yeah.
Speaker A:Jeremiah just said it very eloquently and with no anger and no malice.
Speaker A:Just matter of fact, he just said our religion would never allow or condone anything like that with the Lord.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And my mom just sat there uncomfortably.
Speaker A:So I'm just really thankful for Jeremiah being our healthcare advocate.
Speaker A:But biblically led healthcare advocate.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You had to have the courage in the Lord to speak up and stand out of the world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think that helps when this is a world of very.
Speaker B:Me, myself and I.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Evil and selfish intentions and that.
Speaker B:That's in the.
Speaker B:What do you call it?
Speaker B:The holistic health care.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Huge part of it is like that and it's all about self healing.
Speaker B:And I healed this and did that and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or I'm your healer.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's a lot of it is self motivated.
Speaker A:And I think that's the biggest thing that we try to fight here on this podcast.
Speaker A:But also what's a good way of putting it.
Speaker A:Going against the grain of what the world deems as healthy and okay is not necessarily always what God deems as healthy and okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, you know, even us, when we started this podcast, we were a little nervous about what friends and family and people would think with biblical intentions behind it.
Speaker A:And I think we've just become, thankfully, through people and listeners and, I don't know, others just being so encouraging through this process, we've been so encouraged to continue and just speak out for Christ.
Speaker A:And I guess also to answer.
Speaker A:Jeremiah asked me the other night, actually if we wanted to slow down doing the podcast because having the pregnancy has been really hard.
Speaker A:Jeremiah's had a lot of stress with training for job stuff, and I don't know, I just kind of felt convicted right now.
Speaker A:Talking that.
Speaker A:I feel like we shouldn't stop this year.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Maybe we can.
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Just as of right now, I don't feel like I should stop.
Speaker A:Even though not making money off of this podcast makes it a difficult hobby sometimes because it's not.
Speaker A:Fiscally, it doesn't fiscally make sense for us.
Speaker A:And time wise, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker A:But every single week, seeing more listeners and more people, I'm gonna cry.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:More people feel encouraged.
Speaker A:I don't know, it just makes it worth it.
Speaker A:Even though it's not necessarily a.
Speaker A:A servitude of convenience.
Speaker A:And that's what serving is.
Speaker A:It's not about being convenient.
Speaker A:But also how convenient is it to just come in our house and sit and talk?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I feel like I also shouldn't complain.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I hope that answered what you asked me yesterday.
Speaker B:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:But my second thing actually has a lot to do with yours, the Christianity based.
Speaker A:Because mine was community.
Speaker A:Having a solid community.
Speaker A:Like when we found out that I had a chronic yeast infection in my gut.
Speaker A:Our friend Liz, who actually, she was on our podcast in the first.
Speaker A:I guess the first season, technically.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:The first year she came and brought a week's worth of food.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And groceries for us.
Speaker A:And you weren't even struggling then.
Speaker A:But she did it just to be sweet and to help support us because it's so difficult and I was in so much pain and you were there through every aspect.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So things like that are just.
Speaker A:They're so necessary, you know, Community.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then when we had miscarriages, the few people that, at that point in time, it was actually really rough for us.
Speaker A:We needed more people in our community to stand up and they didn't.
Speaker A:And that's one of the reasons why we decided to change church locations.
Speaker A:Just because it was hard for us to find that community and it was so little at such a big church.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Even though we'd been there for such a long time.
Speaker A:And it's no hate onto that church at all.
Speaker A:We just didn't have it, you know, and we needed our 12 disciples, not our two.
Speaker A:And we still have those, like, few people from that other church and we love them so much.
Speaker A:But our new church, man, night and day with community and doing life together, pouring into you as an individual and me as an individual and then us as a couple.
Speaker A:But I love that they see us as individuals in Christ and then a married couple second.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that has been huge for you and I.
Speaker A:And also just kind of being able to hone in discernment wise on what's needed and important for our health, but also, most importantly, growing with Christ first.
Speaker A:So having that leadership and intention and courage even through we took like a biblical counseling class and course so that we could communicate better and also communicate to you guys better.
Speaker A:Just practical knowledge again.
Speaker A:Um, I feel like a lot of churches don't give that.
Speaker A:And then they're not willing to suffer with you in the hardest and deepest parts, let alone rejoice with you out of that suffering.
Speaker A:So those are.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Community.
Speaker A:I and I've.
Speaker A:We've been talking about that so much, I think the past six months too, on this podcast.
Speaker A:What community is, what it means, how to be able to utilize that to the fullest extent and how to not be shallow in your community and really lean into it and receive, but then give back as well.
Speaker A:So Jeremiah and I are realizing that we've been receiving a lot from this church the first year of going there, and now it's time to give back.
Speaker A:And that's been really cool, learning that we're going to become members soon.
Speaker A:Well, I hope so.
Speaker A:We were interviewed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We'll see if we.
Speaker B:No guarantee.
Speaker A:We'll see if we made it through the interview process.
Speaker A:We want them.
Speaker A:Let's see if they want us, huh?
Speaker A:But, yeah, so I.
Speaker A:I think we'll be good, but I don't know.
Speaker B:I know I'm good.
Speaker B:I don't know about Savannah apparently questioning it.
Speaker A:I just didn't know.
Speaker A:You never know.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker A:And we'd honor their decision either way because we enjoy them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah, those were kind of the main.
Speaker A:We just wanted to give like an easy episode of practical things that really have changed us.
Speaker A:And they sound small, but if you guys were to focus on even just one of these things in your walk right now, whether it be.
Speaker A:Let me.
Speaker A:Let me see if I can recap.
Speaker A:You said understanding.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Understanding holistic health and you being able to use it.
Speaker B:Yeah, Application.
Speaker A:Yeah, Mine, it was application, but specifically doing it yourself.
Speaker A:And then what was your last one?
Speaker A:Oh, biblical leadership.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like being solid with Christ.
Speaker A:And then my last one was community.
Speaker A:If you guys.
Speaker A:Those are four very big things.
Speaker A:And even though Jeremiah and I, we've done those all individually, we've also done them all together as a couple.
Speaker A:And we've been doing these things over, like, years of knowing each other.
Speaker B:I mean, the.
Speaker B:The being able to lead biblically in a health care scenario, like what happened recently?
Speaker B:I took time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, like, I was.
Speaker B:I didn't know I was going to do good.
Speaker B:That was the first time I actually had to, like, really speak up and be like, this is not what we're doing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:God gave you the opportunity and you stepped up, which was so great.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:And it gave me more confidence with him in case, like, God forbid, we did have to go to the hospital or anything with the baby.
Speaker A:I know Jeremiah would be protective over the baby and I.
Speaker A:And he knows because we've had those conversations of what our ideas are, what our goals are and what we do and don't want for labor and birth and all those things.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, you guys don't have to pick those.
Speaker A:One of those four, but you have.
Speaker B:To be confident what you do pick, do.
Speaker B:Pick in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And pray.
Speaker A:We have a whole discernment episode to talk like that we've spoken about.
Speaker A:You can listen to it.
Speaker A:Pray about where God's leading you and where you're needed in your own health care, in your family and for yourself.
Speaker A:But also ultimately, where does God.
Speaker A:Where is God pulling you to for sanctification purposes?
Speaker A:Because if you follow him biblically in that, everything else is going to fall into place very easily.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I guess my last question for both of us is, what is one thing, Jeremiah, that this year, what would you like to learn or focus more in holistic health?
Speaker A:What do you think you don't do as well, that you want to do better in?
Speaker B:That's a really good question.
Speaker A:I can think, like, five things for myself.
Speaker A:It's hard to pick one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I just.
Speaker B:You're constantly doing different things, though.
Speaker B:That's the difference between you and I.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But we have different focuses.
Speaker A:The reason why I tell people to pick just one is because it's hard.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What's your one?
Speaker A:I have so many and I don't have a lot because I.
Speaker A:I pick on myself.
Speaker A:It's more of like, I just know what I need to grow in.
Speaker B:Let's hear how hard on are you on yourself when it comes to holistic health care?
Speaker A:I'll do one biblical and one like just with health.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Biblically.
Speaker A:I need to read more.
Speaker A:I've been struggling wanting to read more, and I don't know why.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:Let's read tonight.
Speaker A:We can go to bed.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:With our Bibles.
Speaker A:So that's number one.
Speaker A:And I think it's because I've gone through the Bible so much for so many years.
Speaker A:You tend to think like, meh, I know a lot.
Speaker B:The devil says, yeah, he knows it all.
Speaker A:It's stupid.
Speaker A:So please be praying for that, you guys.
Speaker A:That I read more and I'm more diligent, but honestly, that this kind of goes with it is time management, time.
Speaker B:Management for how you do your practice.
Speaker A:Bible, time practice, everything, life.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Time management, time.
Speaker A:And people don't think of that being like in holistic health.
Speaker A:But time management affects everything that you do.
Speaker B:You have to wake up at the right time, eat at the right time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Go to sleep.
Speaker A:He's saying that because I don't eat as much as I should with the baby.
Speaker A:And I don't plan my time out very well for it.
Speaker B:See, I have a bunch of meals cooked and ready for her.
Speaker B:Well, I had, we already went through.
Speaker A:Them all, but I, it, it was, it's been really hard for me since we got married.
Speaker A:When I was single, I was like, really organized and I had my laundry day.
Speaker A:I had, like, I woke up early and had my Bible time.
Speaker A:And at night I had my prayer time.
Speaker A:Like, I just, I had my specific things and Jeremiah loved that about me.
Speaker A:And then when we got married, we went through so many struggles and our four miscarriages the first year and just everything kind of got out of whack.
Speaker A:And God's been so patient with me and I'm so thankful, but I really want to, like, I can feel that I'm stressed all the time because I don't.
Speaker A:I don't know what I have planned for tomorrow and it's not okay.
Speaker A:So that's why we've been doing like more of these episodes, even last minute or like recording them weekly instead of doing them in batches like we did before.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because my brain is just so over the.
Speaker A:All over the place.
Speaker A:And then being pregnant, it just feels like that times a thousand.
Speaker A:So I mean I can sit in it and wallow and complain or I can start actively doing little things.
Speaker A:And I'm trying, but that's.
Speaker B:This is when I hard when you have low energy.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I.
Speaker A:It's also not an excuse and I need to lean on my, my especially my sisters in Christ and more wisdom on how to practically do things and not just be okay with hearing.
Speaker A:Like, it's okay you're pregnant.
Speaker A:Cuz this was also before I was pregnant.
Speaker A:You know, like things just started getting on track for us health wise and I started feeling better and more motivated to do it.
Speaker A:But then we got pregnant and I'm.
Speaker A:I'm done with the motivated stage.
Speaker A:I'm over it.
Speaker A:I just, I want to feel good by being organized again.
Speaker A:And I think that's why I've been pulling back so much too with work.
Speaker A:And I'm so thankful that you've been wanting to step up in that way where you really feel like you're like, I want to be the number one and only provider and have you stay at home.
Speaker B:I've always felt that way.
Speaker A:No, but I mean like you, you're doing more now than ever.
Speaker A:Like you feel more convicted than ever.
Speaker A:And I think that's why I feel more convicted than ever too, that like I just don't want to work as much anymore because I want our home to be organized.
Speaker A:I want to like prepare our home for the baby.
Speaker A:And yeah, I know nesting.
Speaker A:People were saying nesting was kicking in, but I've been feeling this way even since before I was pregnant.
Speaker A:And I think God has been preparing me for this because my job has been like a part of a big part of my identity in my life and how I serve him.
Speaker A:So it's hard.
Speaker A:So yeah, I know it was like a lot.
Speaker A:Probably a long winded answer, but.
Speaker A:But that's probably the biggest one.
Speaker A:Is time management pretty solid?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think mine would be basically managing my emotions, my stress, because it's affected my health.
Speaker A:Emotional management.
Speaker B:Emotional management.
Speaker B:So that way there, I'm not so stressed out constantly.
Speaker B:It's been really difficult this past couple weeks.
Speaker A:I feel like a lot of men struggle with that but don't admit it.
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, stress is for men.
Speaker B:Stress is something that we can't really share and talk about because then it puts more stress on somebody that we love and then that stress comes back on us even more.
Speaker B:And so I think stress is something biblically you have to take to your, for men, brothers in Christ and for women, they're sisters in Christ.
Speaker B:It's not really something we could always talk to our family about.
Speaker B:We do have to structure that conversation and have it biblically and just so that we know where we're at in life.
Speaker B:Because who else is going to love on you besides your spouse or your family members?
Speaker B:So whoever is your biggest supporter does need to know.
Speaker B:But at the same time, I know there's a lot of men out there that are like, I can't talk to my wife about this because then she's in a stress and then when she gets stressed, it's going to be put on to me.
Speaker A:Well, that sounds like a issue with the wife though.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's very common.
Speaker B:Very, very common in the church.
Speaker B:Most men that I talk to have that struggle.
Speaker A:Yeah, it is common for sure.
Speaker A:But I also think that they need to work together.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, as couples.
Speaker A:And they have to give their wives more opportunities to be able to love them.
Speaker B:It's on the man, the husband, to come to the wife and present it as.
Speaker B:This is something I'm struggling with, but this is my solution.
Speaker B:I am working on it.
Speaker B:I have brothers in Christ praying for.
Speaker A:Us and asking for her to pray for him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And not put it on her like, oh no, is he gonna give up?
Speaker B:Or oh no, is we're going to lose the house or whatever.
Speaker B:They're going through their fear.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You don't want her to take on that fear.
Speaker B:You want to reassure her that it's not an actual fear and it's self motivated fear.
Speaker B:It's hard.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:My stress is not real stress and it's really difficult to deal with.
Speaker A:What about for the men?
Speaker A:That it is an actual real stress, like they could actually lose the house or you know, their child is dying, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Prayer.
Speaker B:I can't stress enough about prayer.
Speaker B:And then go have a good cry with your brothers and your wife because your wife needs to know how you're feeling because she's feeling it too.
Speaker B:If you guys are struggling in some scenario and you're both in it, there's nothing more.
Speaker B:What is the word, what is that word for relationships?
Speaker B:Intimate.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:Myself, no, she just looks at me.
Speaker B:I just know the answers all of a sudden.
Speaker B:But there's nothing more intimate than crying together with your wife and letting her know what you're going through also.
Speaker B:And she's not alone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because that intimacy comes across in Communication or lack of communication across the board.
Speaker A:It comes across through sex.
Speaker A:It comes across through health care, through finances.
Speaker A:People can become secretive in those things and literally in every aspect of a marriage.
Speaker A:So Jeremiah and I don't have it down perfectly.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:I'm very quiet.
Speaker B:I keep to myself a lot.
Speaker A:He goes to.
Speaker A:If you couldn't tell.
Speaker A:He talks about brothers in Christ a lot.
Speaker A:It's very new for him, having, like, a solid group of men.
Speaker A:And lately, one of my only qualms has been he goes to his brothers first and not his wife.
Speaker A:And that has bothered me a little.
Speaker A:But also, he's had the exact opposite for so long in our marriage.
Speaker A:So that's why it will bother me for a minute, and then I'll realize, no, this is.
Speaker A:He needs this far swing of, like, going running to his brothers in Christ first because he's only had me for so long.
Speaker A:So I'll, like, take myself out of it for a minute and check myself and then be like, thank you.
Speaker A:You're welcome.
Speaker A:This is the first time he's hearing this complaint, by the way.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because it's not an actual complaint.
Speaker A:That's why I was able to say it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:If it wasn't for me doing that, going to God first and then going to them first and then coming to you, I would not be able to communicate my emotion or.
Speaker B:Or my fear.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's made our marriage easier, actually, because before he would just come to me and then go to God and then struggle to find brothers.
Speaker A:And then he started going to God first, which was good.
Speaker A:But then it was just me and God, and that's a lot of pressure for a wife.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I just dropped bombs and no solutions or.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was hard.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker A:I'm glad that this has been a slow and good and healthy change.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:For you and for me and then also for our baby, because you'll be the first one of the first people to show our child how to rely on community in that way.
Speaker A:But, yeah.
Speaker B:Speaking of which, what are you most excited about after this pregnancy?
Speaker A:After the pregnancy?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I guess having a child, like, on the side of heaven.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We have four in heaven.
Speaker B:I can't wait to do worship with you and our paper.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:So that's what you're asking about.
Speaker A:Like, specific.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm gonna be dancing with you and her or him.
Speaker A:I think I'm excited for the thing I'm most nervous about.
Speaker A:Do you know what that is?
Speaker B:Breastfeeding.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm really nervous about breastfeeding.
Speaker A:And I've talked about it with my friends and my sister, my mom.
Speaker A:I'm nervous about it.
Speaker A:I think it's weird.
Speaker A:It just feels like a sexual organ right now.
Speaker A:So it's weird to think that that's going to become a non sexual organ.
Speaker A:But then also after the baby, like it's still going to be kind of, I don't know, that whole blending.
Speaker A:Like you can hear things are falling in the background because I got shifty and uncomfortable.
Speaker A:That whole idea freaks me out still.
Speaker A:I think it's beautiful and amazing.
Speaker A:It's just going to be weird.
Speaker A:I've never experienced it out side of anyway.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm worried I'm gonna get like surprise milk one day.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Okay, that's.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:I'm gonna punch you.
Speaker A:Stop.
Speaker A:Anyway.
Speaker B:Never asking for cereal.
Speaker A:Oh, stop.
Speaker A:Anyway, with that being said.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:I think I am just really excited to meet the personality of my child because when I nannied that was like my favorite part was learning the kids personalities and then individually like growing with them and having fun with them and doing different things with them.
Speaker A:Because like Everett, it was like a crazy, fun, energetic boy and I could run him around until he like fainted and napped and then Quinn was the exact opposite.
Speaker A:So like that kind of fun, like, oh my gosh, how am I gonna entertain them?
Speaker A:Like what excites them?
Speaker A:I'm excited for that.
Speaker B:Me too.
Speaker A:Because I love that in our marriage already we're both really good at doing that with each other.
Speaker A:So I'm excited to meet our child's personality and help them grow to be the best individual that they can be through Christ and for him.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's beautiful.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker A:Well, thank you guys for listening to this short and sweet little episode.
Speaker A:I hope we didn't make you uncomfortable with those last few comments.
Speaker A:Jeremiah.
Speaker B:Hey, it was biblical.
Speaker B:It sound.
Speaker B:You know, I'm not saying anything I can't say.
Speaker A:Anyway, I.
Speaker A:We pray that you guys are blessed with these episodes and you know, we.
Speaker A:I do actually have a few people lined up for interviews and I'm going to be on a few more podcasts coming up in the future, which is really exciting.
Speaker A:And yeah, let us know if you have any questions or concerns and especially prayer if you guys need bibles.
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